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Old 19th May 2007, 12:57
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

Hi Laurent,

"JG 52 lost only one pilot killed this day, Uffz Gunter Kunert."

Do you have any information on his plane and the area of his loss? Maybe a dogfight? Thanks,

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Old 20th May 2007, 11:54
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

Hello HGabor,

Uffz. Günther Kunert, member of 9./JG 52, was killed when bailing out after aerial combat from Bf 109G-6 WNr. 442037, yellow 4. The source for this is Jagdgeschwader JG 52, Vol. IV, p. 129, by Niko Fast who does not provide detail about the location of Kunert´s loss. However, according to www.volksbund.de Kunert (born on 4 February 1922 in Pilzen) was lost over Trakehnen airfield, i.e. in Eastern Prussia.

Hope this helps a little,

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Old 20th May 2007, 21:13
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

Most of what's in this thread I found the date to be on the 17th. Which is in the thread I had for the Normandie-Nieman Groupe for the 17Oct44. Still don't know the losses for the SG units but from the information here it appears that there was overclaiming by the Normandie and VVS units unless there was damaged aircraft returning to base.
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

AFAIK, Normandie had huge overclaim...

As axample, lots of Bf110 shot down on 13 july 1943 over Bolkhov area... All - unconfirmed.
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

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Also, I any of the Russian contributors of this forum is reading this, it would be interesting to know how many victories were scored by Soviet units in the same area. From my only source ("Stalin's Falcons"), Soviet pilots scored also a number of victories this day.
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In the same area 16 october 1944:

18 GIAP - 18 Fw-190
900 IAP - 3 Fw-190

Both regiments belonged to 303 IAD.
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

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In the same area 16 october 1944:

18 GIAP - 18 Fw-190
900 IAP - 3 Fw-190

Both regiments belonged to 303 IAD.
due allaces.ru 900 IAP belong to 240 figther division (IAD) and not to 303 IAD.
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Old 22nd May 2007, 15:45
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

Hi Ota,

thanks a lot for the info. Cheers,

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Old 13th August 2019, 13:03
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Re: Losses of LW for the 16 oct 1944

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In the same area 16 october 1944:

18 GIAP - 18 Fw-190
900 IAP - 3 Fw-190

Both regiments belonged to 303 IAD.

According to the Tsamo, for this day

18 GIAP - 20 Fw-190
139 GIAP - 1 Me-109
1 OIAP "Normandia" - 16 Fw-190 - 8 Me-109 - 5 Ju-87.

50 victories for this day....
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