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Old 4th June 2024, 01:12
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25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher

On 25/7/1944 Ltn Eisbacher, Johann was missing “sudlich Siedlce” in Fw 190 Werknr. 160 673 gelbe C + / (RL 5/1313 pg 4)
On 25/7/1944 Ltn Eisbacher, Johann was missing “sudlich Siedlce” in Fw 190 Werknr. 160 675 gelbe C + / (NVM - RL 5/1313 pg 11)
On 25/7/1944 Ltn Eisbacher, Johann was missing “sudlich Siedlce” in Fw 190G-3 Werknr. 160 675 gelbes C (Aktenvermerk - RL 5/1313 pg 14)

Has anyone information about either, or both, of these Fw 190 (673 or 675) which would help me decide which might be correct in this case? One of these surely must be a typo - same kennizeichen, same pilot, same date, same location listed, but different WNr ?

I’m currently leaning to the NVM being the more trustworthy source, but ???

Many thanks in advance for any help you can give me in clearing this up.

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Old 4th June 2024, 17:20
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Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher

W.Nr. 160675 was reported as received from Toul, France on 8 June 1944 (ULTRA CX/MSS/T211/31)
Strength return 1500/8/6 to IB MUSKETE … To strength: two Fw 190 G-3 160675, 160385 from Toul …
Other evidence in this decrypt suggested that it came from I./SKG 10.

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On 12/6, 2./SKG 10, Fw 190 G-3 W.Nr. 160675, red 6, as a result of bombing attack while parked at GAF Station Dreux, was burnt out and received 100% damage. No personnel lost. Replacement required.
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Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher

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Something about 160675 here: file:///Users/nickbeale/Documents/Nick's%20stuff/Website/raid/raid_2.html
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Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher

Many thanks Nick.

So NVM incorrect in this case. 160673 it is.

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Sorry, fixed it now by posting the original text.
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