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Old 11th December 2016, 19:35
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Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

Hi,

Can someone please provide loss details for Uffz. Hans Berger who was killed on a mission on the 21st February 1941?

He was an experienced flier with the EK I .

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Rick

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Old 11th December 2016, 20:00
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

1941-02-20, 9./KG 27, He 111 P-2, 1590, 1G+HT, 600 m westlich Fl.Pl. Avord
Flugzeugführer Ofw Moritz, Hans, +
Bombenschütze Ofw Heinrich, Gerhard, +
Bordfunker Uffz Keiler, Heinrich, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Uffz Berger, Johann, +
Bei Durchstarten nach Nachtfeindflug abgeschmiert. Bruch 100 %. Bordfunker 1941-02-21 im Lazarett gestorben.

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Old 11th December 2016, 21:39
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

Hi,

Thanks Matti.

Was this a mission over England?

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Old 11th December 2016, 22:08
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

Don't know.

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Old 13th December 2016, 14:39
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

III./KG 27's target for 20-21 & 21-22 Feb 41 was Swansea
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Old 13th December 2016, 23:51
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

Thanks Chris

Last irritating question - tried to translate Matti's last line and think it says that his aircraft crashed on return flight. Is that right?

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Old 14th December 2016, 23:00
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

As a non-German speaker, "Durchstarten" suggests after take-off to me, but per Walt Waiss in his KG 27 history, also says return.

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Old 14th December 2016, 23:04
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

Durchstarten is a go-around after a failed approach. So they tried to land, aborted landing at some point to go around, and then went into the ground.

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Old 16th December 2016, 23:54
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Thanks!
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Re: Information concerning the loss of Uffz. Hans Berger - killed 21.02.1941

Having thought about it more, I would hazard the guess that 'abgeschmiert' means they stalled on go around. It's clearly not a technical term, but to me it would indicate a sudden move straight into the ground.

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