Need help with KG 27 losses on 27 September 1943

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Good morning to all members.

Does anyone do have the codes and full crew details for the following KG 27 losses reported on the 27 September 1943:

a) Ogfr Heinz Pöthig from 8./KG 27 (KIA by Jäger)...I do assume he may be a Bs
b) Ogfr Helmut Leistner from 9./KG 27 was WIA by Jäger...I do assume he also may be a Bs;
c) Uffz Kurt Götz from 9./KG 27 was KIA by Jäger near Militopol. He also may be a Bs.

I am trying to determine if they were in the same action that killed Hauptmann Bomnüter and Major Wallbaum (previous threads here at Toch).

Any help most welcomed. After 3-4 months stuck with a faulty PC am now returning to my writtings, slowly...

Adriano

[Jim P.]

He 111H-16, 161238, Bomnüter, Hptm. Fritz, , II., 6., KG 27, , 1G+BP, , , 27-Sep-43, MIA with crew due to Flak during sortie to Tiefenbrunn., F DKiG., Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22; Waiss, Boelcke-Archiv, V, p.209, , 15km südlich Bolschoi-Tokmak (PlQu. 58 64/34 Ost), 100%, F, B Fw. Josef Heimath, Bf Fw. Bernhard Schomaker, Bm Fw. Herbert Becker & Bs Uffz. Helmut Wochnik, ,
He 111H-16, 161265, Wallbaum, Major Kurt, , III., 9., KG 27, , 1G+AT, , , 27-Sep-43, KIA due to Flak during sortie to Tiefenbrunn. Bauchlandung by B., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22; Waiss, Boelcke-Archiv, V, p.210, , Tiefenbrunn (PlQu. 58 642), 20%, F, , ,
He 111H-16, 161373, Möbius, Fw. Paul, , III., 9., KG 27, , 1G+AD, , , 27-Sep-43, Luftkampf with enemy fighters during sortie to Barbastadt. Bf KIA, Bs WIA, DOW 07-Nov-43., Barbastadt per loss., Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22; Waiss, Boelcke-Archiv, V, p.211, , über Melitopol, 70%, F, B Elies, Bf Uffz. Kurt Götz; Bm Falten & Bs Ogefr. Helmuth Leistner, ,
He 111H-16, 161581, n.n., , III., 8., KG 27, , 1G+AS, BL+DM, , 27-Sep-43, Enemy fire during sortie to Barbastadt. Bs KIA., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22; Waiss, Boelcke-Archiv, V, p.210, , PlQu. 58 61, 10%, F, Bs Ogefr. Heinz Pöthig, ,

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Jim, THANK YOU so much!
So, the other losses were probably on the second sortie mentioned by Hptm Dehn on a letter...my gratitude for that piece of information.
He mentioned that on the first misison there were 11 machines and his good friend Bomnüter was shot down in front of him by Flak...which hit one wing and left side of fuselage (wing may have folded up).
Your answer is very much appreciated.
Adriano