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Old 22nd February 2018, 07:12
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

Roland, I read pages 147-151, no mention of 41-2489 and the dates start at 8 March ..... Are you sure you got the page number right?
The amazon preview doesn't allow me to go back further.
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Old 22nd February 2018, 13:54
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

Hmmm.. Odd. When I click on the Google link I gave it goes right to page 149. The first paragraph starts out "At 12:20 on March 1, 1942 Japanese troops finally set foot on Java. The Eastern Invasion Force landed on the north shore about 100 miles west of Soerabaja, while the Western Invasion Force landed on the northwest coast near Batavia." The rest of the paragraph lists how the BGs responded. It mentions that Hardison's bombardier became violently ill just before take-off and Hardison was delayed for an hour.

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"Lt Beran, B-17E (41-2489, Suzy-Q), arrived first, at 2:30, and aided by a full moon, dropped a train of bombs from 7000 feet atop two transports scoring a direct hit on one and possibly the other."

The book goes on to describe the attack by other planes and the Japanese response. Then at about 5:00 am, after the first attacks were concluded, Hardison arrived. The antiaircraft guns were silent, the searchlights were off and the moon had clouded over. Haridson flew up and down the coast, trying to located some targets. Finally, around 6:00, Hardison spotted a transport and attacks.

Pretty clear from the write-up that Lt Beran was flying Suzy-Q and that Hardison was flying a combat mission in a different (un-named) plane.


Based on your experience it would appear the somehow the Google book links are not "fixed" but may pick and choose what to show based on what? ...... the user's location? or prior searches? Has anyone else run into this before?

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Old 22nd February 2018, 14:09
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

The link didn't work at all for me - just took me to what looks to be the front page of the ad for the book. That's why I ended up at the amazon preview .....
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Old 22nd February 2018, 14:22
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

Peter, maybe the location of the user makes a difference. Are you in the US or elsewhere? I also wonder if Amazon and Google are linking to different editions of the book?
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Old 23rd February 2018, 09:21
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

I don't know, Roland. I am in Australia. I can't get a preview through Google books, only Amazon, edition is from Combined Publishing, Pennsylvania, Copyright 2001, ISBN 1-58097-049-4. I guess it's just another example of how they divide up the world and treat the divisions differently.
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

Peter, the Google link shows the same ISBN number, but the publisher is "Da Capo Press, a member of the Perseus Books Group". Same copyright date. It appears to possibly? be a different version of the book. That might explain the page number differences.
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

Good morning Peter & RSwank,

is there any common link between the B-17 named SUZY-Q and the Dale Hawkins song ? I mean is Suzy Q some popular character in the English-speaking world ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb9vcqam_tQ

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Old 26th February 2018, 12:41
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

If anything it would be an American thing.
Anyone from the USA have any ideas?
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Re: B-17E Suzy Q photo issue

Suzie Q is the name of a dance step in the Big Apple, Lindy Hop, and other dances. In line dances this step is also known as Heel Twist or Grind Walk. The step is also used in jazz dance, and in Salsa shines.
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Good afternoon kaki3152,

thanks for the Suzy-Q info.
Felix Hardison died at the age of 61. Is his cause of death specified ?

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