Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?

[oquaig]

An Air field in between Pskov and Starya Russa (maybe a little to the west) identified as "Prichon" base for II/SKG 210 from 10 August to 4 September 1941. I am Assuming this is a phonetic German spelling or or a small village not found on a large map where the unit was based. But where is it ? Can anyone help?

Thanks
Oquaig

[John Vasco]

The information I have from a former member of 5./SKG 210 gives the location at that time as 'Prichon (Dno) Leningrad. They then moved to Seschtschinskaja in September 1941.

Hope this helps.

[Doug Stankey]

According to our compilation of airfields, the place that you refer to is probably:

Prichon (RUSS) (e. Prichon?) (a.k.a. Verkhniy Prikhon) (c. 58 17 N – 30 32 E) -
General: landing ground in W Russia 50 km SW of Novgorod, located at the north end of LakeIlmen, and 21 km NE of Sol’tsy airfield.

We hope that this helps.

HLdZ
DGS

[John Vasco]

Doug,
Does that match with what I posted?

[Evgeny Velichko]

Gents:
When moved to Northern sector of Estern Front to support Pz.Gr.4 with its attack in way to Nowgorod and further to Lyuban' and Tosno to Ladoga lake, II./SKG210 was based at:

3.8.41 - 10.8.41, small village Malitino (Малитино), ~6km SE from Porkhov (Порхов) sity and ~23km WSW from Dno (Дно).
http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CBtQpD

Then, when frontline moved forward, on 10.8.41 II./SKG210 flew forward to Prikhon (Прихон), which was one small village in WW2 time, but now it is divided into two parts - Verkhniy Prikhon (Upper Prikhon) and Nizhniy Prikhon (Lower Prikhon). It is a village ~50km WSW from Nowgorod (Новгород), and ~60km NWN from Staraya Russa (Старая Русса).
http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CBtrKB
On 4.9.41 Gruppe was withdrawn to support Guderian's attack to Kiev.

All this You will find (I hope) after some years, in a book

[oquaig]

Thank you Gents,

Doug Stankey and Evgeny Velichko answered my question best (Nice map link Evgeny and yes I read Russian). So here is my reconstruction of II/SKG 210 movements in the 1941 eastern campaign:

II/SKG 210

22.6.41 - 30.6.41 Radzyn (51.7531774N, 22.6291752E ) Bf 110
30.6.41 - 6.7.41 Klemensow (15km W of Zamosc 50.7333044N, 23.0333519E) Bf 110
6.7.41 - 10.7.41 Minsk-Matschulicze (53.7767177N, 27.5791168E )Bf 110
10.7.41 - 15.7.41 Boyari (54.2607123N, 28.8609982E)Bf 110
15.7.41 - 25.7.41 Orscha (Balbasovo 54.4368049N, 30.2960014E )Bf 110
25.7.41 - 3.8.41 Schatalowka-Ost Bf 110
3.8.41 - 10.8.41 Milyatino (Malitino 9 km SE of Porkhov 57.7237694N, 29.6641159E )Bf 110
10.8.41 - 4.9.41 Prichon (Prikon 21 km NE of Soltsy 58.2743015N, 30.557785E )Bf 110
4.9.41 - 15.10.41 Seschtschinskaya (Sesha 53.717841N, 33.3462524E )Bf 110
15.10.41 - 6.11.41 Shaikovka Bf 110
6.11.41 - 2.1.42 Orel-West (Yuzhny 52.9351897N, 36.0035706E )Bf 110


As you can see I am still looking for Shaikovka anybody have an idea?

Thank You very much again
Oquaig

[John Vasco]

This is from a former member of 5./ZG 1, Otto Atz. Might help with II./SKG 210 movements in 1941.

[Evgeny Velichko]

oquaig:

Correct name for a/f mnear Minsk is: Минск-Мачулищи, it is Minsk-Machulischi.

Shaikovka (Шайковка)/Bypolzovo(Выползово), is an small town 30rm ESE from Spas-Demyansk.
http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CBe2a9r

В ноябре и особенно в декабре месяцах ВВС противника резко снизили свою активность и только при начале отступления противника из-под Тула на фронте появилось до 25 самолетов МЕ-110, которые активно прикрывают отход своих войск
...
С начала декабря на Брянском фронте отмечаются преимущественно самолеты типа МЕ-110. По-видимому, самолет МЕ-110 является лучшей машиной для полетов в холодную погоду.
...
С 1.12.41 г. на брянском участке отмечены в основном самолеты МЕ-110, которые базируются на аэродроме ст. Нарышкино.

Naryshkino is an airfield 20rm W from Orel. That was a base for II./SKG210. I have several photos of Bf110 of II Gruppe on that airfioeld during winter 41/42.

P.S. There is more than 20 places with name Bojary in Belarus. So dont be so sure

[oquaig]

Hello again,

The list you gave John is interesting as it shows II/SKG210 moving back to Briyansk in December 1941. That's new, thanks.
As for my source on "Orel-West" that is all it says. Finding out that II/SKG210 is at Ct. Нарышкино is all the more interesting. Thanks again Evgeny, I am looking forward to your book no matter what language its printed in.
I see no air field trace in the photos for Naryshkino as well as Prikon and Malitino. That is why I appreciate your input. I am gaining the impression that the Luftwaffe improvised a lot of their air fields as they went forward. Was Naryshkino also a VVS base? As for Boyari (Bojary, Boyary) air field, yes I am aware the are 20 plus Bojary's in Belarus and I am not so sure of my choice of locations, but sometimes throwing out suggestions like this brings a lot of interesting feed back. As an educated guess I pick the stated location because it is west of Minsk, assuming that II/SKG210 was moving forward behind Panzer Group 2. Bojary is very close to Priyamino (Приямино) where the 169th FAR was based the last week of June 1941. Other Luftwaffe units were based at Dokudovo and just by coincidence there a Dokudovo a few km to the NE, but again there is more than one Dokudovo in Belarus. My mind is open on this, so I will press "Submit Reply" and see what happens next.

Thanks again
Oquaig

[Evgeny Velichko]

1. Naryshkino - I dont know, but I'll check.

2. Bojary - yes, loca. You listed is 90% for sure correct.

3. I am not the only author. We are two - me and Andre Stewart. Book will be in english, and will come (I hope) after 2-3 years.

P.S. What is Your interest in SKG210?

P.P.S.

From the report of Stab of Bryansk Front Aviation Commander on dec. 1941:


In November and especially in December the german Air Forces have sharply lowered the activity and only at the beginning of deviation of the opponent from under Tula at the front has appeared to 25 planes ME-110 which actively cover a withdrawal of the armies.
...
From the beginning of December on Bryansk front МЕ-110 are marked mainly. Apparently, plane ME-110 is the best aircraft for flights in cold weather.
...
From 1.12.41 on a Bryansk site planes ME-110 which are based on airdrome of the item of Naryshkino are noted basically.