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Old 15th September 2023, 13:25
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Bf109T - deck trials

Hello all.

Did the Bf109T ever undergo deck testing of any kind? (I mean some kind of deck trial on the water, not just testing on land-based airfields.)

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Old 17th September 2023, 11:53
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

The Germans never had a deck.
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Old 18th September 2023, 14:27
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

For deck trials you need a ship with a deck. Germany did not have an aircraft carrier. The Graf Zeppelin was never completed.
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Old 19th September 2023, 04:21
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

Gents,
I wasn't referring to the obvious. I was hoping to learn if the Kriegsmarine ever had a makeshift deck (like the USN training carriers in the Great Lakes) or if they might have done catapult trials from the between-wars Atlantic (I suppose, technically Atlantik) mail ships - catapult equipped to launch Ha-139 floatplanes.

Does the recent book on the Bf109T cover anything along these lines?

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Old 19th September 2023, 15:02
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

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Gents,
I wasn't referring to the obvious. I was hoping to learn if the Kriegsmarine ever had a makeshift deck (like the USN training carriers in the Great Lakes) or if they might have done catapult trials from the between-wars Atlantic (I suppose, technically Atlantik) mail ships - catapult equipped to launch Ha-139 floatplanes.

Does the recent book on the Bf109T cover anything along these lines?

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Geoff, our book (Chandos Publications) covers land-based arrester-hook trials if I remember correctly.
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Old 19th September 2023, 12:15
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

There was a land-based arrester wire system, used for training with Ar.96s (and Avia B.534s, or am I imagining that one?) Also with the Toni, probably the Fieseler and the Stuka too. Nothing afloat.
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

Thanks Graham.
I'll see if I can find a library copy of the various books on the Toni, and see if there's any more details (on anything of that sort).

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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

I have his original Sea Eagles, but there was a revised edition published in German, which I didn't see. Is this a translation of the second book, or even a third visit to the subject?
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

The Chandos book is a third visit to the subject. The German edition represented a step forward from the original edition and this represents another step forward particularly for English speaking readers and includes additional material.
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Re: Bf109T - deck trials

Deck trial does not mean from a land base. They did catapult test on the Bf 109.


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