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Old 6th April 2018, 16:09
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Identification of crash and pilot in command

Please help identify the crash and everything known about the pilot in command kia.

A friend asked me to post the information here in order to shed more light into the deadly crash.
All that is known about his killed relative is written on the back of a picture which I will post here. The picture shows pilot Rudi Sachs in a treining plane, Arado.The back says:
"Rudi did not return from a mission to England (London) on 18.12.1943. He was killed at age 24."Additional information suggests he was a bomber pilot and possibly living/born in Hamburg.

Is there any information out there about the pilot or the crash?
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Old 6th April 2018, 16:30
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

Hello Egbert,

Gen.Qu. loss report from 23 December 1943 No.10:
18.12. I./KG 6 Feindflug, Ort und Ursache: unbekannt, Ju 188 E-1 WNr. 260249 3E+LL (L= 3. Staffel) 100%
F Uffz Rudolf Sachs vermisst
B Uffz Franz Verheyen vermisst
Bf Uffz Rudolf Waldmann vermisst
Bs Gefr Adolf Strozl vermisst.
Perhaps in the NVM are more informations.

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Old 6th April 2018, 16:46
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

The target was London with the alternative of Brighton. 5 aircraft were tasked and just one reported bombing London at 2228 hrs and one bombed Brighton at 2211 hrs. There were no night fighter claims. The remaining 3 aircraft were reported missing and all must have come down in the sea
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Old 6th April 2018, 23:19
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

Wow that is a lot of information - thank you so very much!
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Old 7th April 2018, 11:19
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

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Gen.Qu. loss report from 23 December 1943 No.10:
18.12. I./KG 6 Feindflug, Ort und Ursache: unbekannt, Ju 188 E-1 WNr. 260249 3E+LL (L= 3. Staffel) 100%
F Uffz Rudolf Sachs vermisst
B Uffz Franz Verheyen vermisst
Bf Uffz Rudolf Waldmann vermisst
Bs Gefr Adolf Strozl vermisst.
Good morning,

the family name of the Bordschütze (Bs) is of cause 'Strolz' (* 13.10.1923) not Strozl - as already misspelled in the GenQu. report (23.12.43, Lfd.Nr. 10, Luftflotte 3).

Please find the pictures of (Kb) Verheyen (* 6.5.1917) and (Bs) Strolz from the 'DRK Vermisstenbildliste' (= read cross MIA picture list) (Band LH, p.208) attached.

Cheers, Uwe K.
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Old 9th April 2018, 02:15
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

Hi, Here is the WASt NVM for Lt. Sachs & crew, hope it helps!

Kind regards,

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Old 9th April 2018, 10:14
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Hi, Here is the WASt NVM for Lt. Sachs & crew, hope it helps!

Kind regards,

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Excellent information. Thank you so very much Melvin
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Old 9th April 2018, 12:30
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

Forgot I too have this NVM as I contacted the Spitfire pilot that shot down the other crew listed. Note Sachs is Uffz not Lt
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Old 9th April 2018, 17:57
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

Hi Egbert, no problem, is there any chance we can use the image of Rudi Sachs on our remembrance website? Chris, old age is creeping in was working on a Leutnant the day I saw Egberts post and inadvertantly promoted Rudi!

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Old 9th April 2018, 18:56
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Re: Identification of crash and pilot in command

Yes Melvin. I received permission from Rudis nephew that youcan use the photo. He also wants to thank everybody here who contributed with these much appreciated infos.
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