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B-17GSH
I raised the question before, but the mystery hasn't been solved: what do the letters GSH mean? In some cases PFF B-17's are referred to as being B-17GSH (or B-17G(SH) sometimes). It concerns B-17 with H2X modification. For instance B-17G 42-30280
Who knows the meaning (please add source)? Many thanks. --Cees |
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Re: B-17GSH
Dag Cees,
The "SH" somehow only seems to show up on the website of wdnorton.nl. A further Google search offered no real pointers. Perhaps contact Rob van den Brink of above website where he found that designation? "B-17GSH" only (or at least mostly) cited where it concerns losses in/around the Zuiderzee/IJsselmeer. Coincidental? Groet, Leendert |
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Re: B-17GSH
Thanks Leendert!
Indeed, the GSH references are in relation to 42-3486 and 42-30280: both PFF planes went down in lake IJsselmeer, north and west of Harderwijk, resp. on 11/1 and 21/2 1944. Both their MACR's mention B-17GSH. But what does it mean? --Cees PS: MACR 3362 also mentions B-17GSH.... |
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Re: B-17GSH
Cees,
As has been suggested before, the SH most likely (and simply..) refers to a H2S or H2X-equipped aircraft. "Special" or "Stinky" H2S? At that time the USAAF had no special prefix for Radar planes, the R then allocated to "Restricted" use a/c. There were also B-24s with suffix "SH" after their type (B-24HSH/JSH), all with H2X. See e.g. http://www.458bg.com/ac-agfishshoppe under Disposition. Other examples are B-24HSH 42-51149 and B-24JSH 42-51955, both 453rd BG. Please also see http://www.b24bestweb.com/tigersrevenge2.htm, with many more on this website (enter H2X in search). Groet, Leendert |
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Re: B-17GSH
Cess,
Just to add: perhaps take a look here as well: http://www.b24bestweb.com/b24bestweb-DataList.htm and scroll down to SER(ies). SH = H2X. No "logical" abbreviation, just a functional code. Groet, Leendert |
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Re: B-17GSH
Thanks Leendert! This clarifies a lot and brings me further. Many thanks! --Cees
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Re: B-17GSH
Hello,
You may want to look in Freeman's "The Mighty Eighth War Manual". On page 47 Moling, page 48 H2S and Oboe. page 49 H2X and explanation of " Standing Operational Procedure (SOP) page 50 to 52 Synchronized H2X Bombing, Gee-H, Micro H. On pages 161 to 163. Special Radar B17s Aphrodite B17's ( Double-Azob Aphrodite B17) Castor B17 Radio Countermeasures B17s Serial numbers given. On pages 172 to 174. Items explained are with "original a/c" serial number lists, which suggests there were later a/c - H2S B24, H2X B24, "Moling" B24, "Eagle" B24, "Axon" B24, Radio Countermeasures B24. All the best Alex |
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Re: B-17GSH
Thanks for this info. It helps to solve the GSH suffix question. --Cees
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