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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
I eventually came round to translating »Bruch« as the old RAF slang term "prang" which covered just about any degree of damage.
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
Gentlemen -thanks a lot for your useful feedback. The numerals 03(.)5 are clearly decipherable in the photo, the third numeral definitely is not a 5. I believed now that the third numeral is a 6 -which identifies the a/c as the one identified by Gerhard. Was W.Nr. 0365 definitely an A-4? The Verlustmeldung for this a.c on 31.5.42 only states '30% damaged' -was the Ju88 written off strength as a result?
BTW; the photo will be published in one of the upcoming vols in the NCA series sometime towards the end of this year, covering the Fernnachtjagd operations over Britain in 1940-41. Cheers, Theo |
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
Hi Theo,
Gen.Qu. loss report from 17 June 1942 No. 13: 31.5. I./NJG 2 H, category 23: beschädigt bei Ausbildungs- und sonstigem Flug ohne Feindauftrag (= damaged without enemy action on a non-operational flight) Ort: Fl.Pl. Castelli Ursache: Bruchlandung Ju 88 A-4 365 30% Er (= Ersatz erforderlich/need for a replacement aircraft). Regards Leo |
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
Ha, totally confused now. And who was talking of Ju 88 A-4 (C-4 was basically A-5 F, ie Zerstörer conversion with recce capability). Besides photo has traces of White (MTO) band applied under K, so how this connects to UK operations is beyond my comprehension? I have seen this eBay photo and its saved under 0559.
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
Thanks Leo for these interesting additional details.
Cheers, Theo |
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
No need to be confused Ed -the W.Nr. of the Ju88 in question is definitely not 0559, I've a high res scan of the original.
Cheers, Theo |
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
I see, you ignore the White band then?
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
No (traces of) a white band visible in the photo that I have ..
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
Hello Theo,
From my database: 0305 > no entries 0315 > no entries 0325 > no entries 0335 > 4./NJG 2 (R4+AM), 13/14 June 1941, lost near Kings Lynn (UK), 3 KIA 0345 > 4./NJG 2 (R4+BM), 17/18 April 1941, ZO Tynemouth (UK), 3 KIA 0355 > Erg.St./NJG 2, 26/27 June 1942, FlH.Venlo, crashlanded, 15% 0365 > I./NJG 2, 31 May 1942, FlH.Kastelli, crashlanded, 30% 0375 > I./NJG 2, 2 March 1941, FlH.Gilze-Rijen, crashlanded, 15% > I./NJG 2, 13 August 1941, FlH.Gilze-Rijen, damaged taxiing, 40% > 9./NJG 2, 9 July 1942, FlH.Greifswald, crashlanded, 25% 0385 > III./KG 30, Stkz. FD+HT, 30 December 1942, near Schiaramonte, crashed, 4 KIA, 100% 0395 > no entries All the best, Marcel
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airfield Venlo in WW-2, I./NJG 1, He219-project |
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Re: Loss Ju88 C-4 R4+NK W.Nr. 0385 of 2./NJG2 at München-Riem airfield on 28 September 1941?
Hi Marcel,
Thanks for sharing these details from your database, much appreciated! Cheers, Theo |
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