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Old 16th February 2012, 12:01
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Shared victories in Italy 1943-44

I am looking for the missing pilots who shared the following claims...

13.09.43 Do217 PO McIntosh and another pilot 111 Sqn
13.09.43 Do217 FS Peart, Sgt Rathwell and another pilot 81 Sqn
17.09.43 fw190 WO Deuntzer and another pilot 43 Sqn
22.09.43 fw190 SL MRB Ingram and another pilot 152 Sqn
02.10.43 fw190 Maj Bennie Osler and another pilot 145 Sqn
02.11.43 fw190 FO WAR MacDonald and another pilot 145 Sqn
24.03.44 fw190 FO JJ Thomson and 2 other pilots 111 Sqn
26.03.44 fw190 FO WAR MacDonald and another pilot 145 Sqn
26.03.44 bf109 Lt Van Schalkwyk and another pilot 72 Squadron
06.04.44 ju88 FO lane, FL Livingston and 2 other pilots

and finally...

14.10.44 JU188D-2 (Identified as Me410) of 6(F)/122 shot down by six pilots of 72 Squadron. I know that SL Duke Arthur was one of the claimants and believe FL E Galitzine also but who were the others?

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Old 16th February 2012, 22:15
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Re: Shared victories in Italy 1943-44

Hi Keith

This is what I have. Unable to locate my 145 Sqn file at the moment, so more later.

13/9/43 81 Sqn Do217 + Sgt P. Ryan

17/9/43 43 Sqn Do217 + F/S SP Smith

22/9/43 152 Sqn FW190 + F/S NEC Dear

26/3/44 72 Sqn Bf109 + F/S CM Scott

14/10/44 72 Sqn Ju188 S/L CIR Arthur, F/L JHM McKinnon, F/L DC Dunn, F/O WRC Bunting, F/O DG Crawford, Sgt DO Dangerfield.

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Old 17th February 2012, 09:50
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Re: Shared victories in Italy 1943-44

Thanks again, Brian

I am trying to put together a table of claims to go inside my copy of Air War over the Med. Vol.2 by Chris Shores. These'll help me a lot.

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Old 17th February 2012, 10:42
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Re: Shared victories in Italy 1943-44

Hi Keith

Volume 2? I don't think Volume 1 has appeared yet. Is Volume 2 being advertised?

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Volume 2? I don't think Volume 1 has appeared yet. Is Volume 2 being advertised?

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Maybe Keith means Chris Shores' vintage 3-volume "Illustrated History of the Mediterranean Air War" (published by Ian Allan, I think).
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Old 17th February 2012, 11:38
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Re: Shared victories in Italy 1943-44

Sorry guys, I wasn't clear.

It is indeed a very old copy of Pictorial History of the Mediterranean Air War Vol.2. It's to blame for all the hours I have spent poring over books to match them up. Brillliant photos and massively interesting text to go with it. If you ain't got a copy buy, borrow or steal one! ;-)
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Sorry guys, I wasn't clear.

It is indeed a very old copy of Pictorial History of the Mediterranean Air War Vol.2. It's to blame for all the hours I have spent poring over books to match them up. Brillliant photos and massively interesting text to go with it. If you ain't got a copy buy, borrow or steal one! ;-)
One I used to borrow regularly from the local library back when I was young and broke (alternating with borrowing his "Second Tactical Air Force").
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Hi Nick

Are you implying that you are longer 'young' but also not 'broke'?

I differ on the second statement!

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Re: Shared victories in Italy 1943-44

Hi Keith

I've just located my 145 Squadron list and can add:

20/10/43 (you have 2/10/43) Osler + F/S RA Aubrey

26/3/44 MacDonald + W/O Martyn

Keep chipping away!

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