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Old 26th April 2005, 10:39
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Re: Photos + 4-25-05

Hi,
What markings are on these 109's ?
the roundels and tail stripes look like french, but they wouldn't have three 109's, is it spanish ?
or luftwaffe training war games ?
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Old 26th April 2005, 14:13
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Re: Photos + 4-25-05

The 109s with the roundel look like Rumanian markings after they went over to the Allies. The Michael Cross painted out and roundel put in place. But they are D models. I didn't realize Rumania had the D.
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Old 26th April 2005, 15:15
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Re: Photos + 4-25-05

I think Modeldad is right. Those Bf 109Ds really look Rumanian (unless they are some German "movie stars" carrying fake French or British markings, of course). Obviously, a previous national marking (Michael cross, Balkenkreuz?) was overpainted. On the other hand, the area where you'd expect the swastika to be doesn't show any signs of overpainting. So I guess Modeldad's Rumanian hypothesis seems to be correct.

Last but not least I'd like to say I really like that Bf 110 D of Stab/KG51 (9K+CA). I hope some decal manufacturer sees those three pix.
Does anyone know the colors of the top part of the emblem? (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6173649940)
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Old 26th April 2005, 21:46
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Re: Photos + 4-25-05

Those Doras are not Rumanian (the ARR did not have a single Bf 109D). Most likely, they are German, painted as French fighters for a war movie, or PK shot.
The seller - a well know German aviation photo collector and historian - probably knows what he is talking about...

BTW, several photos from the same series were already published in the German Flugzeug magazine (or was it Jet & Prop?).
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Old 27th April 2005, 14:30
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Re: Photos + 4-25-05

This picture and other were published in Jet & Prop January/February 2000, p.14 - 16. On the a/c in the middle you can read the designation DE + GA (the "D" not for sure). In the article was speculated that the a/c's were used for an movie but without clear result or proof.

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