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Old 7th October 2017, 05:01
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Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Well this is odd...

I picked this up recently...thinking it was one of the books/documents collected in 1943 from the Hare Hill Ju88 3E+HM cash...

It is the engine log book for Ju88 3E+HM.

Code is the same...as is the unit...

HOWEVER...

The werk number and model are totally different...and these dates go until 1944...a year after the bird went down in the UK.

Soooooooo...

Was it common for a duplicate Stkz. to be used on the same type of aircraft...within the same unit?

Or is the hare Hill Ju88's Stkz. INCORRECT?

I was curious if we know any info about this bird (W.Nr. 5791)?

TIA

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Old 7th October 2017, 05:48
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

It's not a Skz but a Vkz.

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Old 7th October 2017, 16:46
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Right...

but both aircraft would have been marked on the outside with these codes...I guess I had the impression that this type of coding was unique to each aircraft...no?

Or is it like an Me109 with a "Yellow 6" - where numerous aircraft within the unit had the same marking throughout the war?

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Old 7th October 2017, 16:58
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Not unique. Code letters used repeatedly as with the Bf 109 example you gave.
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Old 8th October 2017, 14:48
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Simple rule:
- Stammkennzeichen are unique
- Verbandskennzeichen are reusable, if a replacement plane is delivered after loss; otherwise there would not be enough individual letters for planes in a Staffel

Having explaned that hopefully so that it can be easily remembered I have request, too.
Could you show the front page of the booklet (Bordbuch?) and entries on following pages?
I assume it contains e.g. Engine maintainance, repairs or changes, etc.

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Old 8th October 2017, 17:36
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Hello Harrison987,

I too would relish seeing any engine Motornummern or other data.

Respectfully,

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Old 8th October 2017, 18:14
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Hey guys,

The only info shown on the first pages in regards to engine info is:

LEFT MOTOR
Werk # 104
Hours: 134

RIGHT MOTOR
Werk # 106
Hours 134

Operating hours since last 11046 P/B1
Landings since last 587 P
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Old 8th October 2017, 23:35
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the data.

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Old 17th October 2017, 23:38
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Re: Duplicate Stkz. on Ju88 A Models - history and info needed 3E+JM

Strange a Ju88A-4 with a Jumo211P instead a Jumo211J?
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