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Old 8th January 2015, 23:06
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Ju 87 losses on the 12 & 14 Aug 1943

I'm looking for the Ju 87 unit and its losses for the mornings of the 12th and 14th August 1943. Both times they were escorted by II./JG 54. This would have been to the northwest of Kirov. The 162 IAP PVO claimed 3 Ju 87 and 7 Fw 190 on the 14th. Podpolkovnik Petr Ivanovich Kolomin 162 IAP claimed his 7th personal a Ju 87 at Verkhyaya Pesochnya on the 14th. On the 12th Kolomin claimed his 4th personal a Ju 87 at V. Pesochnya and his 5th a Fw 190 above Lubenka airfield.

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Old 9th January 2015, 00:52
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Re: Ju 87 losses on the 12 & 14 Aug 1943

Here are the Ju 87 losses I have - the Lfl.6 losses seem to fit your request. I'll let you figure out if the Lfl.4 should be included.

Ju 87D-3, 744, Meyer, Uffz. Heinz, , II., 4., St.G. 1, weiße B, 6G+BR, , , 12-Aug-43, Crew MIA due to crash., , Lfl.6/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , Kulatowka, 100%, F, Bf Uffz. Gerhard Kloss, ,
Ju 87D-3, 100020, Skernewitz, Ltn. Henry, , III., 9., St.G. 77, , , , , 12-Aug-43, Crew KIA due to Flak., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , PlQu. 51 87, 100%, F, Bf Uffz. Rudolf Esishans, ,
Ju 87D-3, 31210, Göhner, Uffz. Wilhelm, , I., 1., St.G. 1, weiße M, L1+MH, , , 14-Aug-43, Crew MIA due to midair collision with Ju 87D WNr. 100187., , Lfl.6/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , nordwestlich Kirow, 100%, F, Bf Fw. Karl-Heinz Herrmann, ,
Ju 87D-3, 100187, Marci, Ltn. Werner, , I., Stab I., St.G. 1, grüne W, L1+WB, , , 14-Aug-43, Crew MIA due to midair collision with Ju 87D WNr. 31210., , Lfl.6/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , nordwestlich Kirow, 100%, F, Bf Uffz. Josef Lauermann, ,
Ju 87D-3, 110883, n.n., , I., 1., St.G. 2, , , , , 14-Aug-43, Enemy fire., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , Poltawa, 60%, F, , ,
Ju 87D-5, 130783, n.n., , I., 3., St.G. 2, , , , , 14-Aug-43, Enemy fire., WNr. 783 per loss., Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , PlQu. 51 87, 60%, F, , ,

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Re: Ju 87 losses on the 12 & 14 Aug 1943

Thank you Jim. It looks like St.G 1 was the unit that I was looking for here. Just wonder if the mid-air collision happened because of trying to evade fighter attack.
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Re: Ju 87 losses on the 12 & 14 Aug 1943

Here are entries from two Flugbücher from III./St.G. 1 for 12-Aug-1943 -

Ordelheide -
0440 0545 Uhr - J9+BH, BF Throne, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Ortschaft Blishnje Natarowo
0730 0835 Uhr - J9+BH, BF Throne, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Ortschaft Krutoje
0940 1040 Uhr - J9+BH, BF Throne, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Truppen + Fahrzeuge b. Werch. Pesotschnja
1205 1330 Uhr - J9+BH, BF Throne, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Ortschaft Bolshoje

Ebeling -
0440 bis 0545 Uhr - J9+MH, FF Lt. Amthor, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Waldstellg. östl. Blish. Nadorowa
0730 bis 0830 Uhr - J9+MH, FF Lt. Amthor, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Waldstellg. sw. Werch. Persoderknja
0940 bis 1035 Uhr - J9+MH, FF Lt. Amthor, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Waldstellg. w. Kosjagino
1205 bis 1330 Uhr - J9+MH, FF Lt. Amthor, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Ortschaft Bolshoje
1530 bis 1635 Uhr - J9+MH, FF Lt. Amthor, Iwanowka - Iwanowka : Ortschaft Krutoje

No entries for 14-Aug-1943.

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Re: Ju 87 losses on the 12 & 14 Aug 1943

Thank you Pawel. Ivanovka is within 12 km of Verkhyaya Pesochnya.
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