I./SKG 10 & NSG 20 Puzzles

[Chris Goss]

Matti and myself have been puzzling over a number of casualties from this unit for which we can find no crash details; can anyone help?


Uffz Alfred Schaarf 3./SKG 10 + 4 Feb 44
Ofw Emil Derboven + Apr 1945
Ofw Seibel + 14 Apr 45 (buried Postdam)
Uffz Alois Löscher 3./SKG 10 + 14 Apr 43

[Nick Beale]

Regarding the 14 April 1945 loss, there are at least signs that NSG 20 was active:

KO 608

ZZ

Fl.Div. 14 (1) at 09.00/15, ops report for night 14/15: (a) ground attack by 20 Fw 190 and 19 Bf 109, area Eringen (X.75) – Braunschweig (X.90) – Wittingen (Y.6); (b) recce by 2 Fw 190 in same area. 2 aircraft missing. (2) at 16.00/15: ops intentions night 15/16: about 30 ground attack aircraft area Gifhorn (X.93).

171418Z/4/45

[John Manrho]

Did you check all on line records of VDK and others? I will see what I can find

[John Manrho]

Uffz, Alfred Scharf, geb. 16.01.1917 Neu-Craussendorf
EM 51922/191, 3./SKG 10
Tödlicher Absturz bei Werkstattflug, +4.2.1944
Todesort: Rosieres
1. Grablage: Friedhof St.Pierre/Amiens
2. Grablage: Bourdon, Bl.36, Rh.3, Gr. 86

Uffz. Alois Löscher, geboren 29.06.1919 Eggenberg/Graz.
EM 51923/187, 3./SKG 10
Verstorben durch Schädelbruch am 14.04.1943, 17.15 Uhr, Lw.laz. Paris-Bernay
1. Grablage: Friedhof Evreuse
2. Grablage: Champigny-St,Andre, Bl. 9, Rh. 27, Gr. 1904.

Ofw. Emil Derboven, geboren 21.05.1920
Reported missing Radom/Zwolen.
Source: VDK

Ofw, Gustav Seibel, geboren 09.11.1919 Gehlweiler
NSG 20, L.N. Stendal 1.1945 MIA
Source: DRK

[Chris Goss]

Thanks John & Nick. Matti had looked at VDK. In respect of Scharf, an aircraft crashed that day but there is no NVM and in respect of Löscher, nothing for that date. The other two definitely killed but date, causes and details not known

[John Manrho]

Löscher could also have crashed on an earlier date......an died from his wounds a few days later?

You state that Seibel was buried in Postdam? He is in the DRK-Bildlisten.

Do you have any other information on Derboven or Seibel?

[Chris Goss]

John absolutely nothing apart from photos. A note for Seibel says 14.4.45 Magdeburg & for Derboven vermisst seit April 1945

[John Manrho]

Will see if I can find more about the Seibel and Derboven.

J.

[Chris Goss]

Thanks John. It would appear that being so late in the war and close to the end, the deaths of these guys might have been missed. I have photos if interested

[John Manrho]

Yes, losses from mid March until end of war are an issue. In my JG 6 research I found approx. 10-15 losses who ar nowhere mentioned. As soon as you have a name it becomes easier.....so, we should be able to dig up something regarding Seidel/Derboven.

You stated that Seidel was buried in Potsdam....do you know where that info comes from?

John