Hptm. Karl Neumaier JG 7 + 21.04.1945

[Melvin Brownless]

Hi Guy's,

Today I am searching for the loss details of Hptm. Karl Neumaier Gefallen am 21.04.1945 bei Sagan. He flew with KG 53 and later JG 7. Can anyone help further please?

Kind regards,

Melvin

www.aircrewremembrancesociety.co.uk

[Karoband]

http://www.x19world.de/fleiger/me262.einsaete.htm
This site has an "Obltn. Neumar" as Ia of I./JG7. I have seen no other reference to this person. Unfortunately I have no information on Hptm. Neumaier.

[GrafWolf]

Dear Melvin,

unfortunately there is no Hauptmann Karl Neumaier listed as pilot at JG 7.
These are names of pilot JG 7 first letter N :
Major Johannes Naumann
Ofhr. Neugebauer
Ofhr. Josef Neuhaus
FjOfw. Klaus Neumann
Oblt. Neumar
Gefr. Hermann Notter
Oblt. Karl Nordbruch

Maybe a member of the ground crew?

My source: Chronik Jagdgeschwader 7 by Manfred Boehme

Herzliche Grüsse aus Oberschwaben,

Wolfgang

[Richard T. Eger]

Dear Karoband,

The link that you provided seems to be all about cars, not aircraft, and that was found only by shortening the URL. As you presented it, it doesn't seem to exist.

Regards,
Richard

[Matti Salonen]

Correct link seems to be www.x19world.de/flieger/me262_einsaetze.htm

Matti

[Karoband]

Thanks, Matti. My apologies.

[Larry deZeng]

Hmmm.................

I have notified Doug on this to see if he has any recollections concerning our two NEUMAIER entries and the absence of a NEUMAR entry. All it takes is a single misspelling in an original document, or later on by researchers and/or authors and the error gets perpetuated into eternity! I think our NEUMAIER entries come from two separate sources, so this is indeed odd. Notice in the Manfred Boehme list given above how the first name is missing from NEUMAR yet the first names are given for the others in the list. This raises questions as to where Boehme got the name and that it may have been from someone's postwar recollections and not from a document. The name NEUMAR almost seems to be a phonetic reproduction from soneone's memory.

L.

[Melvin Brownless]

Hi Guy's

Thanks to everyone so far for their help so far. Have attached an image of Neumaier, his calling card and burial. Was originally with KG 53, so maybe we can trace his movements from there?

Kind regards to all,

Melvin

www.aircrewremembrancesociety.co.uk

[Heuser]

Originally Posted by Melvin Brownless

Karl Neumaier Gefallen am 21.04.1945 bei Sagan.

Gentlemen,

Sagan was occupied by the Soviets in Februray 1945; maybe Neumaier died as POW?

Regards

Heuser

[Larry deZeng]

Melvin,


A Hptm. Karl NEUMAIER, A1 (Tr.O.), is listed on p.191 of the Dienstaltersliste der Offiziere der Deutschen Luftwaffe nach dem Stande vom 1. August 1944. There is no listing for anyone by the name of NEUMAR.

Hptm. Karl NEUMAIER is also listed on p.150 of Patzwall , Klaus D. Die Luftwaffen-Rangliste 1945. Norderstedt: Militair-Verlag Klaus D. Patzwall, 1986. Hb. 225p. Index. Again, there is no listing for anyone by the name of NEUMAR.

NEUMAIER is mentioned just twice in the KG 53 unit history (Kiehl, Heinz. Kampfgeschwader “Legion Condor” 53": Eine Chronik – Berichte, Erlebnisse, Dokumente, 1936-1945. Stuttgart: Motorbuch Verlag, 1983. ISBN: 3-87943-947-8. Hb. Dj. 388p. Illus. Maps. Appendices. Bibliography. Names index.), on pages 48 and 53. Both entries refer to him as an Oblt. belonging to 8. Staffel in September 1939 while based at Gross-Ostheim near Aschaffenburg. No further mention in the book and no mention of a NEUMAR.

L.