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Old 20th February 2009, 17:17
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Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

Can someone help to identify DKiG holder, Luftwaffe FW 190 pilot, that died on May 8, 1945 (over Czech republic).

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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

No more info? Where in Czech Republic and is May 8th certain?

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Old 21st February 2009, 09:29
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

May 8, 1945 is certain.
DKiG was excavated many years later at the crash site, which is near village Nadryb, Plzen disctrict.
Plane was shot down by 15.Tac.Recon. Squadron Mustangs...
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

Peter,
Have you tried to contact Nick Beale? I do remember reading an account on his NSG9 of some 15th Tac Rec Squadron Mustang pilots. Can we rule out this Fw 190 as being from a Jagdgeschwader? I checked the JG 54 files and found 4 losses on 8 May 1945 ( II/Gruppe ), but there is NO indication of place, neither of the markings of the aircraft. My GUESS is that this Fw 190 came from an Assault Squadron ( SG, NSG ).
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

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May 8, 1945 is certain.
DKiG was excavated many years later at the crash site...
If the DKiG was excavated, then some human remains must have been found as well. Is it the case?
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Old 21st February 2009, 16:49
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

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Peter,
Have you tried to contact Nick Beale? I do remember reading an account on his NSG9 of some 15th Tac Rec Squadron Mustang pilots.
My information came from the expert on this unit, Tom Ivie, who has written books about them.
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Old 21st February 2009, 16:56
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

Thanks for hints and posts guys....
I looked for more info, and found following clues:
- It might be possibly SG 10 Fw 190.
- It is reported that human remains were left at the place of crash during the war. Few years ago, when some detectorists recovered engine of the Fw 190, it is said that human remains were found...but they kept them there...(detectorist = almost human being which is interested only in selling artefact of planes, but interest in history)
- Nadryb is in south Cechia. It is most probable that this claim was the one of 1/Lt. George R. Schroeder (P-51 F-6 of 15 RS, 10 PRG).

We thought it may be Enzensberger, Josef, RK and DKiG holder, but he died in 70ties...
I checked database of DKiG jolders, no mention of one KIA on 8.5.1945.

Is someone capable to share FW 190 loss list for this day? if it exists....
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

Hello Peter,
I do have found some SG airmen lost around your date, although I do NOT know where they were killed and which kind of aircraft they were flying at the time of incident. However, could we supose that the pilot in question SHOULD have been awarded the RK as well?
I am asking that because Obfw Rudi Went, from Stab/SG 2 was killed on 8th May 1945. He was a RK trager but I do not know if he was flying a Fw 190 neither where he went down...
The second "possible" candidat: Lt Karl-Heinz Gschwendtner, from SG 103, killed on 05th May 1945 ( I do not know where, neither which kind of aircraft he was flying ).
Those are two candidates, if we think of the date of action. Do hope someone else will have more information about Obfw Went...
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Old 21st February 2009, 18:46
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

PS: Found Went as Rudi Wendt. Do not know which version was the correct one!
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Old 21st February 2009, 18:52
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Re: Luftwaffe DKiG holder KIA on May 8, 1945

An interesting site, with information about that action you are looking for, although I do not understand much, because it is in Czech...
Maybe you will be able to translate for us..
http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=25819
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