Definition of Category for losses in Aviationhistory.no

[Rolfeb]

Hi
Did some research on the page below and losses are defined in categories, like 20 or 21 etc.
Can anybody help me to understand what it means.
Thanks a lot in advance
Rolf
Please have look at the link below


http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...unit=N.A.Gr.13

[Revi16]

Hold your mouse cursor over the Category number and the explanation pops up.


e.g. 1=Missing due to enemy action. 21=Damaged without enemy action on operational flight.

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Revi16

Hold your mouse cursor over the Category number and the explanation pops up.


e.g. 1=Missing due to enemy action. 21=Damaged without enemy action on operational flight.

Thank you
Rolf

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Summary losses numbers and description
Through enemy action:
1 (F) Missing while on enemy mission
2 (F) During enemy mission AA fire, 100%
3 (F) During enemy mission AA fire, 10-60 %
4 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, with enemy observance, 100%
5 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, without enemy observance, 100%
6 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, with enemy observance, 10-60%
7 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, without enemy observance, 10-60%
8 (F) During enemy mission, infantry fire, 100%
9 (F) During enemy mission, infantry fire, 10-60%
10 (F) Own territory, bombing raid, 100%
11 (F) Own territory, bombing raid, 10-60%
12 (F) Own territory, airborne fire, strafe, 100%
13 (F) Own territory, airborne fire, strafe, 10-60%
14 (F) Own territory, infantry fire, 100%
15 (F) Own territory, infantry fire, 10-60%
16 (F) Other, 100%
17 (F) Other, 10-60%
18 Total due to enemy action, 100%
19 Total due to enemy action, 10-60%
Without enemy action:
20 (F) Enemy orders, 100%
21 (F) Enemy orders, 10-60%
22 (H) Without enemy orders, 100%
23 (H) Without enemy orders, 10-60%
24 Total without enemy orders, 100%
25 Total without enemy orders, 10-60%

[Rottler]

Hello Norbert,

and what about the damages from 61% to 99%?

Regards
Leo

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Norbert Schuchbauer

Summary losses numbers and description
Through enemy action:
1 (F) Missing while on enemy mission
2 (F) During enemy mission AA fire, 100%
3 (F) During enemy mission AA fire, 10-60 %
4 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, with enemy observance, 100%
5 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, without enemy observance, 100%
6 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, with enemy observance, 10-60%
7 (F) During enemy mission, airborne fire, without enemy observance, 10-60%
8 (F) During enemy mission, infantry fire, 100%
9 (F) During enemy mission, infantry fire, 10-60%
10 (F) Own territory, bombing raid, 100%
11 (F) Own territory, bombing raid, 10-60%
12 (F) Own territory, airborne fire, strafe, 100%
13 (F) Own territory, airborne fire, strafe, 10-60%
14 (F) Own territory, infantry fire, 100%
15 (F) Own territory, infantry fire, 10-60%
16 (F) Other, 100%
17 (F) Other, 10-60%
18 Total due to enemy action, 100%
19 Total due to enemy action, 10-60%
Without enemy action:
20 (F) Enemy orders, 100%
21 (F) Enemy orders, 10-60%
22 (H) Without enemy orders, 100%
23 (H) Without enemy orders, 10-60%
24 Total without enemy orders, 100%
25 Total without enemy orders, 10-60%

Thank you very much
Rolf

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Leo,
For the Summary losses there were only two types of loss assessment. Damaged or destroyed. I saw a note on one of the reports dated 1943-09-02 in the BAMA that stated 1-59% is damaged and 60-100% is destroyed.

I agree I could have been clearer in the table.

BR,
Norbert

[Rottler]

Norbert,

I thank you for the clarification.

Regards
Leo

[Rolfeb]

Thank you all for your replies.
Based on Aviationhistory.no - see link in post #1, the 2./NAGr 13 lost several planes in October which is new to me. In particular these are the 4 following losses
a) 6.10.44 - destryoed without enemy action on operational flight
b) 8.10.44 - destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft on operational flight - observed by enemy
c) 8.10.44 - damaged without enemy action on operational flight
d) 29.10.44- damaged without enemy action on operational flight.

Is there any more info availabe, e.g. name of pilot, serial number of plane, Ultra report?

Unfortunately the list ends with end of October but 2./NAGr 13 flew missions until end of April 45.
Thank you very much in advance and stay healty.
Rolf