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Old 6th March 2005, 17:56
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Old 7th March 2005, 10:03
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Thanks for a very interesting information. Do you have Lohmann's account for the mentioned dog-fight?
PS I know what the 'wellblech' means but of course I cannot recall a proper English term at the moment.
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V25?

Please forgive me if this was mentioned here earlier, but have you seen photo on Falcon hangar (photo ID 4140) of possible V25? nose?

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Old 2nd July 2008, 20:26
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Re: Me 109F development

George, it is outstanding, and doubtless Friedrich must have been developed well into 1938. I am wondering if wings were new built (as tail was) or converted from older ones.
The scan is very interesting but a pain to read. Could you send me perhaps a better copy?
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Old 2nd July 2008, 23:35
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Re: Me 109F development

There is a report titled Entwicklung und Flugeigenschaftsmässige Erprobung der Me 109 F (27.1.41) that briefly describes, as tittle says, the development and testing of the flight qualities of the F series, which are compared with those of the E series.
It's noted in the report that testing began in 1938. To be more precise, they tested diferent wings (slatless, wooden wings with ~4º wing twist) on Bf 109 B-1 W.Nr. 1032.
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Re: Me 109F development

That would be outstanding. Where can I find the report?
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Old 3rd July 2008, 21:52
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Re: Me 109F development

You can find a copy in NASM reel 2279.
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Old 4th July 2008, 00:43
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Re: Me 109F development

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Old 5th July 2008, 12:47
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Re: Me 109F development

The RLM Lieferpläne Nr. 18 and 19 contain the following information on the Bf 109F-0 and some of the prototypes involved:
Bf 109V23 had W.Nr. 1801 and the Bf 109V24 was W.Nr. 1929.

Delivery of the F-0 series was as follows:
Total ordered 19 aircraft. Delivered up to 30.06.40 was 5 aircraft.
Up to 31.10.40 was 12 aircraft and up to 01.03.41 18 aircraft. Unfortunately I have no confirmation on the delivery of the 19th and final Bf 109F-0.

Also regarding the Bf 109F-1 series I can add the following:
Messerschmitt Regensburg had an order for totally 157 Bf 109F-1.
Up to 31.10.40 10 aircraft had been delivered. Up to 31.05.41 155 aircraft had been delivered.
The only licencee for the Bf 109F-1 was Wiener Neustadt who built a total of 49 Bf 109F-1 up to the end of May 1941.

Most of the Bf 109F-0 aircraft were delivered to Chef des Ausbildungswesens. From 14.10.40 to 29.12.40 a total of 11 aircraft had been assigned to the training establishments. The rest was probably kept for various testing purposes. On 01.03.41 the following F-models were used for testing: W.Nr. 5601, 5602, 5603, 5604, 5605, 5642, 5716 and 5717.

The first Bf 109F-1 aircraft to an operational unit was to J.G.51 at Mannheim on 19.12.40 when they received 8 aircraft. By the end of January 1941 this unit had received a total of 117 Bf 109F-1 and F-2 aircraft.
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