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Old 8th February 2010, 20:39
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Re: Athens-Tatoi

Re that Combined Arms Whatever site. Whatta waste. The sucker either doesn't download at all or it takes two days to download one document. And I have broadband accelerated (20 GB a nanosecond). Screw it.

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Re: Athens-Tatoi

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Flugbereitschaft X. Fl.Korps mit folgenden bekannten Maschinen:

Fi 156 C-3, (NE+KY, W.Nr. 5207) 10% 17.09.41-04.10.42, 04.10.42 Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
Fi 156, (W.Nr. 4465) 50% Bombenwurf 10.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
Do 17 Z (DK+TE, W.Nr. 3253) 100%. Bombenwurf 04.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
Do 17 Z, (W.Nr. 1210) 100% FF. Fw. Lorenz Bantel, BM. Siegfried Habenbacher, (+) Abst. 26.08.43 S.O. Tatoi,
Caudron 445 A-1, (CD+YF, W.Nr. 0481) 25.08.41 Bruchlandung Tatoi,

16./Fl.Verb.G. 2

14.12.43Fi 156 (W.Nr. 1440) 30% Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi

Kurierstaffeld.Lw.Südost / Tatoi / Athen (07.42-01.10.44) Fp.Nr. 50 660

Wekusta 27 (09.06.43-10.44): 14.12.43 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 142431) 20% Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi

A.Gr. 1. (F) 121

FF. Fw. Fritz Albrecht (+), Ju 88 A5 (W.Nr 684) 100% m. BO. Fw. Julius Gerhard (+), BF. Uffz. Kurt
Knuschke (vw.), BS. Uffz. Heinz Büttner (+), Hindernisberührung 26.08.41 Tatoi

Aufklärungsgruppe 2. (F) 123 Fp.Nr. 00 461

FF. Uffz. Walter Schäfer, Ju 88 D1 (4U+8K, W.Nr. 430733) 100% m. BO. Ofw. Erhard Schäfer, BF. Uffz. Heinz Thurm (vw.) alle anderen (+) 16.06.43, abgestürzt infolge Mottorschaden 4 Km. südl. Tatoi,
FF. Uffz. Julius Meinschard, Ju 88 D1 (4U+HK, W.Nr. 430799) 100% m. BO. Oblt. Bernhard Themel,
BF. Uffz. Kurt Bräutmann, BS. Uffz. Kurt Apelt, alle (+) 27.06.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Uffz. Helmut Ehrig, Ju 88 D1 (4U+NK, W.Nr. 430777) 100% m. BO. Ltn. Albert Götz, BF. Uffz. Otto Bechtold, BS. Uffz. Ludwig Kock, Motorschaden, alle (+) 06.07.43 bei Tatoi,
09.08.43Ju 88 D-I, (W.Nr. 430751) 100% Absturz infolge Motorbrand, Besatzung unverletzt, Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
21.08.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430599) 30%, Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
25.08.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430635) 30%, Bruchlandung infolge Motorstörung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
04.09.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430774) 35%, Fahrwerkschaden bei Landung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
23.09.43 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 142524) 70% Bauchlandung, Fahrwerkschaden, dann von Ju 88 gerammt, Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Uffz. Heinz Hagmann, Ju 88 A4 (4U+JK, W.Nr. 430627) 95% m. BO. Uffz. Harry Brosinski, BS. Ogfr. Fritz Hastenpflug, alle (vw.) durch Kolission mit Maschine (W.Nr. 142524) 23.09.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Ltn. Karl Dittmann, Ju 88 D1 (4U+LK, W.Nr. 430719) 95% m. BO. Fw. Wilhelm Hennecke,
BS. Fw. Paul Faupel, beim Start von Ju 52 gerammt, alle (vw.) 26.09.43 in Tatoi,
FF. Fw. Heinz Ditzer, Ju 88 D1 (4U+JK, W.Nr. 430502) 100% m. BO. Fw. Heinrich Lichius, BF. Uffz. Robert
Danek, BS. Fw. Werner Schwerdt, Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung u. verbrannt, alle (vw.) 18.11.43 Tatoi,
19.11.43 Ju 88 D1, (W.Nr. 430038) 15% Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung in Tatoi, Besatzung unverletzt,
FF. Ltn. Heinz Ditzer, Ju 88 D1 (4U+ZK, W.Nr. 430090) 100% m. BO. Fw. Otto Görner, BF. Uffz. Robert Danek, alle (vw.) 20.03.44 beim Start Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
09./10.44 Fi 156 (4U+XK) Tatoi,

Jagdgeschwader 52:
III./JG 52Fp.Nr. 26 978 / 32 781, 30.05.41 Bf 109 (W.Nr. 3449) 75% Bruchlandung Tatoi,

6./ZG. 26:
BF. Uffz. Kurt Schwann (+), Bf 110 B3 (W.Nr. 4232) 100% Flakbeschuss 23.04.41 Flpl. Tatoi,

III./ZG. 26:
21.02.42 Bf 110 E2 (W.Nr. 4531) 50% Rollschaden Tatoi,


Erg.Gruppe/St.G. 3, Fp.Nr. 31 153

FF. Ltn. Dr. Horst Müller, Ju 87 (W.Nr. 6263) 90% m. BF. Uffz. Friedrich Kozminsky, beide (+) 26.04.43
Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
FF. Ltn. Walter Pöttmann (+), Absturz, 26.04.43 Tatoi, BF. unverletzt,

13./St.G. 151:
BF. Ogfr. Otto Ditzum, Absturz 13.07.43 Tatoi,

I./KG 2:
30.04.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2751) 40% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
02.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 4190) 15% Fahrwerkschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
13.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2785) 20% Feindbeschuss Fl.Pl. Tatoi, (W.Nr. 2793) 15% Flakbeschuss Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
20.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 1175) 12% Rollschaden Tatoi,
21.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2650) 65% Rollschaden Tatoi
1./KG 2:
AP. Gfr. Heinrich Hottenbach (+), AP. Ogfr. Willi Döhmer (vw.), AP. Flg. Heinz Doetsch (vw.),
BF. Fw. Hermann Meiering (vw.), Kfz. Unfall, 01.05.41, Strasse Athen Tatoi,
III. KG 2:
30.04.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2751) 40% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
21.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 4228) 80% Rollschaden Tatoi,
24.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 2694) 90% Rollschaden Tatoi, FF. Uffz. Michael Teters,
30.05.41 Do 17 Z (W.Nr. 3461) 45% Bruchlandung Tatoi
7./KG 2 :
FF. Uffz. Michael Teters (vw.), Do 17 Z (U5+R, W.Nr. 2694) 90% Zusammenstoss beim Rollen mit Ju 52,
24.05.41 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

III./ KG 3:
13.05.41 Do 17 (W.Nr. 4212) 20% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
13.05.41 Do 17 (W.Nr. 3435) 75% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

II./KG 6:
27.09.43 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 550226) 25% Bauchlandung infolge Motorstörung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

Chef-Ausbildungswesen (A.W.) – Gruppe:
10.10.44 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 0183) 100% Absturz Fl.Pl. Tatoi, FF. Wolf Renek (+),
FF. Fw. Anton Rauch (+), Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr. 0183) 100% m. BO. Oblt. Georg Denkmann (+), BF. Fw. Otto Butz (vw.), BS. Fw. Felix Czeck (+), Absturz und Aufschlagbrand, 10.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

II./KG 100:
FF. Uffz. Nisterer m. BO. Ogfr. Laupeckle, BF. Gfr. Nath, BM. Ogfr. Brothage, BS. Gfr. Heidlack, alle (vw.), Fehlstart 18.10.42 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,

K.Gr. zbV. 104:
24.05.41 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 6771) 80% Rollschaden Tatoi (Stab),
24.05.41 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 5988) 50% Rollschaden Tatoi

Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 300:
18.12.41 Ju 52 (CH+HP) 100% auf dem Flug von Fl.Pl. Tatoi nach Derna Abstury im Hemettos-Gebirge,
FF. Fw. Wilhelm Steding, Ju 52 (…+AI, W.Nr. 6398) 100% m. BF. Uffz. Heinz Treizt, BM. Uffz. Alfred Geiswinkler, BS. Gfr. Paul Müller, alle (+) Absturz 18.12.41 Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
BF. Uffz. Philipp Flott (vw.), Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7207) 100% Bodenberührung , restl. Besatzung, 2 Offiziere und 2 Unteroffiziere leicht (vw.), 17.12.41 bei Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
20.12.41 Ju 52 (DG+SX) 30% Bruchlandung, kein Personenschaden, Fl.Pl. Tatoi

K.Gr.z.b.V.600:
12.09.42 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7161) 100% Absturz Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
03.11.42 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7192) 50% Rollschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
1./Kgr. zbV. 600, St.Kpt., FF. Hptm. von Düsterloh, Ju 52 (W.Nr. 7475) 70% mit BF. Uffz. Seike, Bruch nach Start, beide (v.) 18.10.42 Fl.Pl. Tatoi

1./Kgr. zbV. 800, 12.09.42 mit 4 Ju 52 aus Prindisi in Tatoi eingetr., St.Kpt.,


Stab I ./Transp.G. 4:
FF. Oblt. Ludwig Eckert (+), FF. Uffz. Arnold Wagner (+), FF. Ofw. Kurt Kerwarth (vw.), FF. Uffz. Theodor Könders (vw.), FF. Ofw. Helmut Heinrich (vw.), FF. Fw. Gustav van Alst (vw.), BF. Fw. Hans Gorf (+), BF. Uffz. Gero Fuhrmann (vw.), BF. Gfr. Friedrich Höhlig (vw.), BM. Uffz. Albert Hartmann (vw.), BS. Gfr. Otto Hampel (+), BS. Uffz. Herbert Petzold (+), Bombenwurf 04.10.43 Fl.Pl. Tatoi, 9 Fluggäste tot
13.07.43 Ju 52 (G6+AL, W.Nr. 2832) 100% Absturz Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
17.09.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 130705) 15% Rollschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
26.09.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 3160) 30% Zusammenstoss bei der Landung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
04.10.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 10007) 100%, Ju 52 (W.Nr. 2977) 100%, Bf 108 (W.Nr. 2071)100%, Bombenwurf Tatoi,
10.10.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 3124) 30% Bombenwurf Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
02.11.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 6277) 15% Bruchlandung Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
08.11.43 Ju 52 (W.Nr. 130511) 10% Rollschaden Fl.Pl. Tatoi,
1./TG 4, FF. Ogfr. Kurt Stöver mit BO. Uffz. Walter Borgmann, BM.Uffz. Bernhard Jopek, alle (+) 04.10.43 Tatoi
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I agree with you Larry

screw it more than once
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Larry/Byron,

Many thanks for your comments and extra detail.

Will start adding over the next few days.

Re CARL - some of the files are quite large and therefore take a while to download. It has nothing to do with your speed, theirs is damn slow at times.
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Hi

The last one I feel is incorrect as the last c/n in the series was 7800. So this one should be 7*33

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Tony/Byron,

Have checked into the item that Tony highlighted.

It is item 18 of the Loss Return dated 17.11.42.

The Wk Nmr on the return is quite clear and appears as 7333 not 7833.

Loss was a non-combat flight "Notlandung infolge motorstörung (besatzung uuverletzt)" 100% no crew injured/killed or missing.

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Andy,

You say, a code appears as 7333 and not 7833. Is this an info i have given? I can`t find it in my posting.
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I have hier some damaged Ju 52 planes in the airfield Tatoi of KG z.b.V. 1

Werk Nr. Ort Besch. % Grund Datum Gruppe


5296 Tatoi 100 Bod.Berühr. 01.06.41 II
5977 Tatoi 60 Notlandung 20.06.41 I
2960 Tatoi 15 Bruchlandung 26.07.42 III 11. Staffel
5054 Tatoi 100 Absturz 27.07.42 II
3304 Tatoi 20 Rollschaden 17.09.42 IV
7833 Tatoi 100 09.11.42 I

Byron,

Its the last entry in the above post that Tony queried. It took me a while to find it as well.
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Thanks Andy

i found it
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Byron

Another correction for you
Fi 156C-3 NE+KY should be c/n 5201 and not 5207

Sorry about the confusion re the Ju 52, I did reply to the actual post where the item was shown

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