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Old 17th December 2020, 13:12
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Re: Event dated 19.9.1944 3 x YAK-9 shot down Belgrade

From the book Анохин В. А.
Все истребительные авиаполки Сталина. Первая полная
энциклопедия / Владимир Анохин, Михаил Быков. -
М. : Яуза-пресс, 2014. - 944 с.


20.08.1944 Вместе с 10 гшад передан в состав 17 Воздушной армии 3 Украинского фронта. Получил на вооружение самолеты Як-9 и эксплуатировал их совместно с Як-1 и Як-7б.

14.10.1944 Переведен в состав 236 истребительной авиадивизии 17 Воздушной армии 3 Украинского фронта (вместо 611 иап). Получил самолеты Як-3 и эксплуатировал их совместно с Як-1 и Як-9.

01.11.1944 В составе 236 иад включен в авиагруппу Витрука 17 ВА 3 Украинского фронта на территории Югославии.

09.05.1945 Исключен из действующей армии.


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20.08.1944 Together with 10 GvShad transferred to the 17th Air Army, 3 Ukrainian Front. Received the Yak-9 aircraft and operated them jointly with Yak-1 and Yak-7b.

14.10.1944 Transferred to 236 fighter aircraft division, 17 Air Army, 3 Ukrainian Front (instead of 611 IAP). Got the Yak-3 aircraft and operated them in conjunction with Yak-1 and Yak-9.

01.11.1944 As part of the 236 IAD included in the air group Vitruk 17 VA, 3 Ukrainian front, in Yugoslavia.*

09.05.1945 Excluded from the active army.

Additional info – To 11 VA ZKVO 7.9.1945. Designated 168 GvAPIB (guards fighter-bomber regiment) on 15.12.1959,, effective 17,12. with MiG jets. Under direct command of 34 VA ZKVO 12.4.1960. Operated in Afghanistan 1984-85 under 40 OA, Turkmenistan Military District. Renamed 168 GvBAP 1988 and disbanded 1992.

(*In Yugoslavia 236 IAD was renamed 11 VLD (fighter division), and 10 GvShAD 42 VJD (assault division).
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Old 17th December 2020, 13:39
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Re: Event dated 19.9.1944 3 x YAK-9 shot down Belgrade

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I do not know what the correct name of this airfield is, but I see how airfields of 168 Gw.IAP in September 1944 were named Chief of Staff of 10 Gw.ShAD Guards Colonel Artemyev and Head of the operational department Guard Major Usanov.
168 Gw.IAP was based in September at the airfield "ТЕКУЧИ" (6 days), at the airfield "БАНЯСА" (or "БЕНЯСА") (15 days) and at the "БАЛОМЫРУЛ-ДЕ-КЕМПЕНИ" airfield (9 days).
"ПИПЕРА" airfield is listed as a base for aircrafts of other two regiments of the same division.
The composition of the regiment is listed as - "Yak fighters" (without modification which rather indicates a mixed composition).
The airfields in question are :

- Tecuci
- Baneasa ( nothing to do with Pipera as researcher stated which is another airfield in Bucharest )
- Balomiru de Camp
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Re: Event dated 19.9.1944 3 x YAK-9 shot down Belgrade

I have info about 3 Saratov built Yak-3 from batch No.13, that were assigned to the 17 VA, 236 IAD:

1013
1113
1213

1213 was assigned to the 267 IAP withinn the 236 IAD. All three planes were handed over to the new Yugoslavian Air Force in April, 1945.
Not sure about the other two assignments. They could be either 267 IAP, or 117, 168 GvIAPs. (I have AC serial lists for only 611 IAP, 117 GvIAP and all of the IL-2s, given to Yugoslavia in April, 1945. Unfortunately no confirmed serials for the 168 GvIAP - yet.)

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The airfields in question are :

- Tecuci
- Baneasa ( nothing to do with Pipera as researcher stated which is another airfield in Bucharest )
- Balomiru de Camp

Can you indicate on map where in relation to Baneasa ,Otopeni or Leordemi was Pipera located ? same as Balomiru
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[quote=Zoran Petek;299277]From the book Анохин В. А.
Все истребительные авиаполки Сталина. Первая полная
энциклопедия / Владимир Анохин, Михаил Быков. -
М. : Яуза-пресс, 2014. - 944 с.


Thanks Zoran !
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https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=450417519

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Again if you post these links for public is fine ,longer ago I downloaded
all Opersvodkas 2VA , 5VA and 17th VA , so nothing new as far as I am
concerned .
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The airfields in question are :

- Tecuci
- Baneasa ( nothing to do with Pipera as researcher stated which is another airfield in Bucharest )
- Balomiru de Camp
Pipera was an other airfield ?

I have overlapped Pipera's aerial taken by Luftwaffe during
WWII on the right of Google map of Baneasa airfield or of today's
Aurel Vlaicu airport . In WWII Pipera might have been just 1-2
Km SE of Baneasa airfield but part of the same facility and
probably under same control tower , Baneasa was the civilian
part of it -

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