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Old 24th December 2015, 21:22
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Seeking photos/info on one last LW Loss on 7 April 1940, a Ju52, during Phoney War

Hello,

One more request to complete our research for the Phoney War LW loss during April, 1940, this one also on 7 April.

"7 April 1940: Fl.Komp.Ln.Regt.Ob.d.L. Junkers Ju52/3m. Engaged over Lure by 16 Moranes of GC I/6 and GC II/7 during radio intercept mission and shot down south-east of Meurcourt, France, at 4.30 p.m. Oberlt Luitpold Deutschenbaur and eight crewmen (of III./Ln.Regt.3) killed. Aircraft 100% write-off."

I think that this is the Meurcourt in the Haute-Saône Dept:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meurcourt

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 2nd January 2016, 14:45
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Re: Seeking photos/info on one last LW Loss on 7 April 1940, a Ju52, during Phoney War

I have the following names for this Crash

Weinberg Johann Fw.
Engelhard NN Fw.
Deutschbauer Luitpold Ltn.
Hädrich Erwin Fw.
Fischer Heinz Fw.
Link Horst Fw.
Berndt Erich Uffz.
Winkler Horst Uffz.
Biel NN Fw.

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Old 3rd January 2016, 09:56
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Re: Seeking photos/info on one last LW Loss on 7 April 1940, a Ju52, during Phoney War

Hi Larry,

Yes it is Meurcourt :

7 Avril 1940 Meurcourt (70) JUNKER 52/3m Fliegerkompanie desLuftnachrichtenregiment Obdl. Appareil ayant peut être préalablement appartenu à la légion Condor, (pièces avec des marquages espagnols )
Crash à 6 H 45 Bois à 120 m de Meurcourt, au Sud est, " orée du bois de dessus", lieu dit "Le Pré St Vincent"
Un moteur explose, arrachant une aile, l' avion rependra des débris sur une grande distance à l'endroit du crash Avion transportant de l'équipement radio destiné à la surveillance de la base de Luxeuil, sa mission était d'espionner les fréquences radio françaises afin de permettre l'écoute et le brouillage au jours de l'attaque .. 9 tués : 4 de l'équipage et 5 "passagers" seront inhumés le 9 avril en fosse commune à Meurcourt Avion égaré depuis le Rhin suite à un mauvais vent d'Est et abattu par un groupe d'appareils (4 patrouilles du GC II/7 et une du GC III/6 )
from excellent website :

http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/HAUTSAONE-1940.htm

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Re: Seeking photos/info on one last LW Loss on 7 April 1940, a Ju52, during Phoney War

Hello,

The Histavia21 website has provided an excellent account of what the purpose was of this mission.

The Google Translations website translates the Bertrand Hugot information (from the Histavia website) information as:

"April 7, 1940 Meurcourt (70) JUNKER 52 / 3m Flieger Kompanie desLuftnachrichtenregiment Obdl. Device may be having previously belonged to the Condor Legion, (rooms with Spanish markings)
Crash 6 H 45 Wood Meurcourt 120 m to the south is "edge of the wood above", a place called "Le Pré St Vincent"
An engine exploded, tearing a wing, the aircraft rependra debris over a large distance to the place of Plane crash carrying radio equipment for monitoring the base of Luxeuil, his mission was to spy radio frequencies French to enable listening and jamming the days of the attack .. 9 killed: 4 and 5 crew "passengers" will be buried on April 9 in mass grave in Meurcourt plane strayed from the Rhine due to incorrect East wind and shot by a group of devices (4 patrols GC II / 7 and GC III / 6)"

Obviously there are a few words here that have not translated correctly. If anyone can clean this up, I would appreciate it. I'm not fluent in French.

Based upon the above information, Peter Cornwell had modified our EoE LW Loss DB summary as follows:

"7 April 1940: Fl.Komp.Ln.Regt.Ob.d.L. Junkers Ju52/3m. Engaged over Lure by Moranes of GC I/6 and GC II/7 during radio intercept mission and crashed into woods at ‘Le Pré St Vincent’, south-east of Meurcourt, (France) 4.30 p.m. Oberlt Luitpold Deutschenbaur and eight crewmen (of III./Ln.Regt.3) killed. Aircraft 100% write-off. (TOCH 1/16)
Those killed were Fw Erwin Hädrich, Fw Horst Link, Fw Gerhard Weinberg, Uffz Erich Berndt, Uffz Wilhelm Engelhardt, Uffz Heinz Fischer, Uffz Gerhard Winkler, and Obergefr Fritz Biel. Victory shared by Cdt Georges Tricaud, Cne Germain Bruneau, & S/Lt Roger Demoulin of GC I/6 and Sgt Jean Doudiés & Sgt Jacques Lamblin of GC II/7."

We now have the specific purpose and details of the mission further refined. What we don't have is photography of the wreck site. Can anyone provide that to wrap up this incident?
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