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Old 23rd May 2011, 22:04
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Names of commanders of groups are necessary

Hi all!

Names of commanders of groups are necessary, April 1940:
KGrzbV 104 - ??? von Jena
KGrzbV 105 - ??? Dannenberg
KGrzbV 107 - ??? ???
KGrzbV 108 - ??? Förster

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Old 23rd May 2011, 23:09
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Re: Names of commanders of groups are necessary

Reviewing our files, we have compiled the following unit commanders:

K.Gr.z.b.V. 104 - (03.40 - 01.43). > II./KG.z.b.V. 323

Kdr. KGr.z.b.V. 104:
Maj./Obstlt. Axel Freiherr von Jena (c.15.03.40 - 01.42 MIA). -returned to service
Maj.? Werner Stephan (c. 1941-42).
Maj. Kurt Stephan (c.01.42 - 01.43?).

Staka 1./ KGr.z.b.V. 104:
Unknown.

Staka 2./KGr.z.b.V. 104:
Unknown.

Staka 3./KGr.z.b.V. 104:
Unknown.


K.Gr.z.b.V. 105 - (03.40 - 04.43). > I./TG 4

Kdr. KGr.z.b.V. 105:
Maj. ? Dannenberg (c.15.03.40 - ?)
Hptm. Kurt Schneidenberger (1940-42).
Maj. Reinhard Wenning (? - 05.41 - ?). - acting?
Obstlt. Emil Deffner (DKG) (? - 03.42 - 07.07.42 -?).
Obstlt. Josef Kögl (26.08.42 - nlt 15.10.42). - provisional
Hptm. Ernst-Hermann Mersemann (DKG) (1941-43).
Hptm.? Emil Herbst (1942 - nlt 08.03.43).
Maj. Rüdiger Jakob (1943 - 18.05.43). - provisional

Staka 1./ KGr.z.b.V. 105:
Unknown.

Staka 2./KGr.z.b.V. 105:
Unknown.

Staka 3./KGr.z.b.V. 105:
Unknown.


K.Gr.z.b.V. 106 - (03.40 - 04.43). > III./TG 2

Kdr. KGr.z.b.V. 106:
Hptm. Heinz Alewyn (15.03.40 - 07.40).
Maj. Hugo Stolt (? 04.40 - ?nlt 08.40).
Hptm. Kurt Handke (07.40 - nlt 09.40).
Hptm. Hass (06.41 - 07.41) - acting
Oblt.? Gerhard Dudeck (? - 1942 - ?).
Obstlt. Hugo Stolt (04.42 - c.03.43).
Maj. Walter Hornung (DKG) (c.03.43 - 01.05.43).

Staka in KGr.z.b.V. 106:
Oblt. Gerhard Dudeck (? - 16.02.42 - ?).

Staka 1./ KGr.z.b.V. 106:
Hptm. Otto Babekuhl (? - 04.40 - ?nlt 11.40).
Hptm. ? Bischoff (c. 11.40 -?).
Hptm. Erich Reymann (1941 - ?).
Oblt. Reinhold Wrede (01.12.41 - nlt 12.06.42).

Staka 2./KGr.z.b.V. 106:
Hptm. Gerhard Stellmacher (? - 04.40 - 25.11.41 WIA).

Staka 3./KGr.z.b.V. 106:
Oblt. Konrad Stangl (09.04.40 - 05.40).
Hptm./Maj. Peter Ingenhoven (05.40 - nlt 22.08.41).
Oblt./Hptm. Karl-Arnulf Wenner (? - 04.41 - nlt 09.08.43).
Oblt.d.R. Heinz Wichelhaus (1942 - nlt 24.08.42).

Staka 4./KGr.z.b.V. 106:
Hptm. Günther Hoffmann (? - 04.40 - 05.40).
Hptm. Friedrich-Anton Gundelfinger (05.40 - nlt 1942).


K.Gr.z.b.V.107 - (03.40 - 07.40) > disbanded with parts to KGr.z.b.V. 108

Kdr. KGr.z.b.V. 107:
Hptm. Bernard Gisevius (c.15.03.40 - 06.40)

Staka 1./ KGr.z.b.V. 107:
Unknown.

Staka 2./KGr.z.b.V. 107:
Unknown.

Staka 3./KGr.z.b.V. 107:
Unknown.


K.Gr.z.b.V. 108 - (03.40 - 04.43) > TGr. 20

Kdr. KGr.z.b.V. 108:
Maj. Otto-Lutz Förster (03.40 - nlt 07.05.41).
Obstlt. Axel Freiherr von Jena (1941).
Hptm. Erich Zähr (1940-42).
Obstlt. Adolf Scharfbier (1941 - 06.42). -acting?
Obstlt. Hans Löw (c.06.42 - 01.05.43). >Kdr. TGr. 20

Staka 1./ KGr.z.b.V. 108:
Unknown.

Staka 2./KGr.z.b.V. 108:
Unknown.

Staka 3./KGr.z.b.V. 108:
Unknown.



We hope that this helps.

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Re: Names of commanders of groups are necessary

Danke!!!
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Re: Names of commanders of groups are necessary

Lufttransportchef See, April 1940 - Maj. Hermann Lessing ???
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Re: Names of commanders of groups are necessary

Hello Doug,

thank you for your useful infos.
Do you have have any names of Stakas for the following trsp.units ?

K.G. z.b.V. 1
Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 40
Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 60
Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 101
Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 102
K.G. z.b.V. 172

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Old 25th May 2011, 22:32
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Adolf:

You seem to be a transport specialist!

Here is our file for this fellow:

LESSING, Hermann.
(DOB: 20.10.00).
1921 in Reichsmarine.
(n.d.) transferred to Luftwaffe.
1937 Hptm./Maj., Staka 1./Bordfl.Gr. 196, Wilhelmshaven (to Oct 39).
10.39 appt Kdr. Kü.Fl.Gr. 706 (to 06.40).
c.22.03.40 appt Lufttransportführer (See) (to c.05.05.40).
07.40 appt Kdr. Kü.Fl.Gr. 906 (to 06.42).
01.04.42 as Obstlt.
07.42 Verbindungsoffizier (Liaison Officer) OKL to OKM/Skl. (to 10.42).
26.10.42 Oberst, awarded Ehrenpokal.
09.02.43 Oberst, in XIII. Fliegerkorps, appt Kdr. Navigationschule Strausberg (to 06.43).
30.06.43 reassigned from the Luftwaffe to the Kriegsmarine and posted to the Kommandierender Admiral der Unterseeboote effective 01.07.43 (for the duration).
[15.07.43 Oberst, appt Kdr. SAGr. 130 (Tromsø) (to c.04.44?)]?

We hope that this helps you.

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Byron, here are the commanders of the requested units that our files can reveal:

Kommodores of Stab/KG.z.b.V. 1:
Obstlt. Friedrich-Wilhelm Morzik (26.08.39 - nlt 01.05.41).
Obstlt. Henning (Gustav?) Wilke (RK) (05.41 - 29.07.42).
Oberst Rudolf Trautvetter (01.08.41 - nlt 09.12.41).
Maj./Obstlt./Oberst Otto-Lutz Förster (R) (08.12.41 - 31.12.42).
Oberst Karl Drewes (01.01.43 - 06.04.43).
Oberst Adolf-Herbert Jäckel (DKG) (07.04.43 - 05.43).

Staka in KG.z.b.V. 1:
Obstlt. Karl Drewes (26.08.39 - ?). - sounds wrong

Kdr. I./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Oberst Dr. Max Ziervogel (26.08.39 - 20.12.39).
Maj. /Obstlt. Karl-Georg Witt (22.11.39 - 30.08.40). -probably should read (22.12.39 - 30.08.40).
Maj. Adolf-Herbert Jäckel (31.08.40 - 06.05.41).
Maj. Otto-Lutz Förster (07.05.41 - 07.12.41).
Maj. Ernst Mäss (02.42 - 05.43). then Kdr. I./TG 1

Staka 1./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Oblt. Günter Mauss (? - 01.40 - nlt 1941).

Staka 2./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown

Staka 3./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown

Staka 4./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown

Kdr. II. / KG.z.b.V. 1:
Obstlt. Karl Drewes (1940? - 12.40).
Maj.? Lindemann (? - ?).
Hptm. Arnold Willerding (01.41 - 07.41).
Obstlt. Guido Neundlinger (DKG) (c.08.41 - 17.05.43).
Maj. Franz Stipschitsch (c.03.43 - 01.05.43). - then Kdr II./TG 1.

Staka in II./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Oblt. Lorenz Möller (R) (? - 02.04.42 - ?).
Oblt./Hptm. Hans-Jochen Dahms (01.05.39 - nlt 14.07.40).

Staka 5./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown

Staka 6./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown

Staka 7./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Hptm. Günter Capito (? - 09.04.40 -?).

Staka 8./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown.

Kdr. III./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Hptm. Markus Zeidler (01.03.40 - 01.09.40).
Maj./Obstlt. Rudolf Starke (02.09.40 - 05.41?).
Obstlt./Oberst Walter Schroeder (c.06.41 - 10.42? - 1943?). -periodically acting?
Maj. Siegfried Hagena (DKG?) (15.10.42 - c.012.05.43) - continued as Kdr. III./TG 1

Staka in III./KG.z.b.V. 1:
Oblt. Walter Meltzer (DKG, R). (? - 12.42 - ?).
Oberst Walter Schroeder (1943?).
Hptm. Artur von Casimir (08.11.39 -02.40).

Staka 9./KG.z.b.V. 1:
Hptm. Wilhelm Eifler (? - 10.05.40 KIA).
Oblt.? Hans-Heinrich von Grohmann (1941).

Staka 10./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Hptm. Gustav Hauck (? - 10.05.40 POW).

Staka 11./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Hptm. Fridolin Fath (? - 09.41 - nlt 01.42).

Staka 12./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Hptm. Paul Dreikorn (? - 10.05.40 KIA).

Kdr. IV./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Maj. Johannes Janzen (? - 01.09.39 - nlt 01.03.40).
Hptm.d.R. Julius-Theodor Jansen (26.08.39 - 21.11.39). -obviously this is being confused with Janzen?
Hptm./Maj. Theodor Beckmann (DKG, RK). (01.04.40 - 12.42).
Maj. Theodor Scheuring (c.01.43 - c.01.43) . -acting.
Hptm./Maj. Fridolin Fath (DKG, RK). (01.42 - 15.01.43).
Maj. Kurt Schneidenberger (16.01.43 - c.01.05.43). - became Kdr. IV./TG 1

Staka in IV./KG.z.b.V. 1:
Oblt. Rudolf Burkheiser (1941 - 22.06.41?WIA).

Staka 13./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Oblt. Ernst Zechlin (? - 10.05.40 POW). -soon repatriated
Oblt. Johann-Bruno Lepek (? - 06.41 - ?).
Maj. Theodor Scheuring (? - 02.43 - ?).

Staka 14./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown

Staka 15./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Hptm. Artur von Casimir (05.09.39 - 15.10.39) - temporary duty
Oblt. Kurt Lastig (? - 10.05.40 POW).
Oblt./Hptm. Heinz Stumke (? - 01.11.42 - ?1943).

Staka 16./ KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown

Staka 17./KG.z.b.V. 1:
Unknown


K.Gr.z.b.V. 40 - (03.41 - 06.41). > dissolved
Kdr. - K.Gr.z.b.V. 40
Obstlt.? Ernst Deutsch (03.41 - 14.05.41 MIA).


K.Gr.z.b.V. 60 - (03.41 - 06.41) > dissolved
Kdr - K.Gr.z.b.V. 60
Maj. Walter Hammer (03.41 - 06.41)


K.G.z.b.V. 101 - (03.40 - 06.41). > disbanded

Kdr. KGr.z.b.V. 101:
Obstlt. Ernst Mundt (c.15.03.40 - 15.05.41 - ?).

Staka in KGr.z.b.V. 101:
Hptm. Karl Thomas (? - 24.03.41 WIA - ?nlt 25.02.42).
Hptm. Helmut Wiegand (? - 04.41 - 20.05.41 MIA).
Maj. Arnold Feierabend (? - 04.41 - 20.05.41 KIA).

No other Staka of 101 are known.


Kdr. KGr.z.b.V. 102:
Oberst Wilhelm Baur de Betaz (RkHS) (29.03.40 - nlt 21.09.40).
Maj. ? von Zamson (02.09.40 - 04.41?).
Hptm. Reinhard Wenning (02.09.40 - 19.12.41).
Obstlt. Walter Erdmann (c.04.41 - 01.01.43).
Maj. Paul Risch (DKG) (1941-1943).
Maj. Josef Penkert (? - 03.43 - ?).

Staka 1./KGr.z.b.V. 102:
Maj. Gustav Damm (1940).
Oblt. Werner Herty (? - 04.41 - nlt 09.41). -implied, possibly only acting.

Staka 2./KGr.z.b.V. 102:
Hptm. Reinhold Oelze (? - 08.40 - nlt 03.41).

Staka 3./KGr.z.b.V. 102:
Oblt. Walter Bradel (? - 04.40 - nlt 07.40).
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Hello Doug, thank you

That is what I have for K.G. z.b.V. 1, there are some differences here and there. Some other opinions?

Springtime 1941, operation Marita

Geschw.Kdr., 26.08.39-01.08.41 Oberst Fritz Morzik, 12.41-23.03.43 Oberst Otto-Lutz Förster,
07.04.43-00.43 Oberst Adolf Jäckel, 00.43-00.43 Oberst Karl Drewes

I. /KG z.b.V. 1
Kdr., 07.05.41-12.41 Major Otto-Lutz Förster,08.42-05.43 Major …... Maess,

1./KG z.b.V.1 St.Kpt. ??
2./KG .zb.V.1, St.Kpt., ??
3./KG z.b.V.1 St.Kpt., ??
4./KG z.b.V.1 St.Kpt., ??

II./KG z.b.V. 1
Kdr., 01.41-08.41 FF. Hptm. Arnold Willerding
08.41-17.05.43 FF. Hptm. Guido Neundlinger

5./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., FF. Oblt. Hüttenhain (?)
6./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., FF. Hptm. Harald Zimmermann
7./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., FF. Oblt. …… Körber
8./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., FF. Oblt. Hermann Mang

III./KG z.b.V. 1
Kdr., Oberst Rudolf Starke, Major …… Hagena

9./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., FF. Hptm. Fridolin Fath
10./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., ??
11./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., ??
12./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., ??

IV./KG z.b.V. 1
Kdr., 02.42 Obstlt. Theodor Beckmann, Major Kurt Schneidenberger

13./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., ??-06.41 FF. Oblt. Johann-Bruno Lepek
14./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., ??
15./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., FF. Oblt. Richard Ziller
16./KG z.b.V. 1 St.Kpt., ??

Any correction or complements would be appreciated. As one can see, there are still a lot of gaps and uncertainties on these units

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