search info fw190 Hans Regner

[joel husson]

hello,

I would like to know if Hans Regner was with the 11JG2 shot down on March 02, 1944 in LAunois sur Vence (08)?
His aircraft was Fw190A7 "7+" wk 642557 ?
was he part of the JG52 before?
if anyone has more info, i'm interested

Cordially

Joel

[Kaczmarek]

Hello Joel,

no loss with this name in J.G. 2.

Rgds,
René

[Chris Goss]

Not on my list for this date with JG2 but I have him being shot down with 9./JG 52 in Jan 42

[tonda75]

Hello Joel,
I think this pilot was not a member of JG 2. May I ask you, please, what is your source of information?
If you are interested in Lt.Hans "Pitt" Regner 9./JG 52, please contact me.
I have his photo.
Regards, Tony

[Matti Salonen]

In March 2, 1944 was killed Uffz Johann Regner of 6./NJG 2 in Bf 110 F-4, 2696 in Holzelfingen, 9 km südöstlich Reutlingen. Reason: Absturz infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 100 %.


He was not a pilot but Bordwart!

Matti

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by joel husson

hello,

I would like to know if Hans Regner was with the 11JG2 shot down on March 02, 1944 in LAunois sur Vence (08)?
His aircraft was Fw190A7 "7+" wk 642557 ?

Cordially

Joel

Joel
According to Mombeek 11./JG 2 lost WNr 642557 on this day.
However, the pilot is unknown and the reasons for the loss are unclear.
Not even the correct place seems to be known for certain. Listed as Lannois only which Mombeek
speculates was Launois sur Vence.

May I ask why you consider Hans Regner to be the pilot in the first place and why the aircraft was shot down?
I am not saying it wasn't, but what makes you so sure?

Cheers
Stig

[Chris Goss]

...and from what I can see, Regner went missing with 9./JG 52 in Jan 42? Maybe Matti can link the Wk Nr with a loss? Would be interested to know where Joel got this information

[joel husson]

excuse me Exactly, I don't know anymore. on March 2, 1944, there were several air battles over the Ardennes 4 German aircraft are lost: Fw190A7 wk642008 "+?" 11JG2 Friedrich Schöneberger MIA between Sedan and Charleville Fw190A7 wk642544 "+?" 9JG2 Roland Stûckardt crashed in Chéhéry "no more info" Fw190A7 wk341251 "3+" 12JG2 Wolfgang Steinicke crashed at Bulson "no more info" Fw190A7 wk642557 "7+" 11JG2 Hans Régner crashed Launois on Vence "no more info" The census of these fallen planes are in the archives of the water and forest companies of the time and registers in town halls when they still have them. I'm just a model maker and I reproduce the planes that fell in the Ardennes in 39-45, so a lot of research in your books and other registers. thank you Joel

[Jim P.]

The losses of III./JG 2 per Prien, et al, "Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV" and other sources like M. Balss' "Deutsche LW Losses & Claims". Note the two losses listed at the end with incomplete data. Could one of them have been for WNr.642557? There is still no pilot name associated with either loss. I have no loss at all for that particular machine in my database.

FW 190A-7, 340251, Steinecke, Oblt. Wolfgang, , III., 12., JG 2, , , , , 02-Mar-44, Stfhr. KIA due to Luftkampf with B-17s and P-47s. Took off from Cormeilles., , RLV, Balss, Deutsche LW Losses & Claims, V.30 (Mar-44), p.21; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV, p.235; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.21, , 10km nördlich Verdun, 100%, F, , 11.45,
FW 190A-7, 340269, Friedrich, Uffz. Helmut, , III., 12., JG 2, , , , , 02-Mar-44, WIA due to Luftkampf with B-17s and P-47s. Notlandung. Took off from Cormeilles., , RLV, Balss, Deutsche LW Losses & Claims, V.30 (Mar-44), p.21; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV, p.235; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.21, , 30km nördlich Reims, 100%, F, , 12.00,
FW 190A-7, 340307, Ottendörfer, Uffz. Harald, , III., 10., JG 2, , , , , 02-Mar-44, KIA due to Luftkampf with B-17s and P-47s. Took off from Cormeilles., , RLV, Balss, Deutsche LW Losses & Claims, V.30 (Mar-44), p.21; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV, p.235; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.21, , 22km westsüdwestlich Arlon, 100%, F, , 11.45,
FW 190A-7, 642008, Schöneberger, Uffz. Carlfriedrich, , III., 11., JG 2, , , DT+HR, , 02-Mar-44, MIA due to Luftkampf with B-17s and P-47s. Took off from Cormeilles., , RLV, Balss, Deutsche LW Losses & Claims, V.30 (Mar-44), p.21; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV, p.235; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.21, , zwischen Sedan und Charleville, 100%, F, , 11.50,
FW 190A-7, 642544, Stuckardt, FhjFw. Roland, , III., 9., JG 2, , , , , 02-Mar-44, KIA due to Luftkampf with B-17s and P-47s. Took off from Cormeilles., , RLV, Balss, Deutsche LW Losses & Claims, V.30 (Mar-44), p.20; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV, p.235; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.21, , 8km südwestlich Sedan, 100%, F, , 12.00,

FW 190A-, , n.n., , III., , JG 2, , , , , 02-Mar-44, Aircraft damaged, cause unknown. Not due to action with the enemy., , FR, Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV, p.235, , Ort unbekannt, b, F, , ,
FW 190A-, , n.n., , III., , JG 2, , , , , 02-Mar-44, Luftkampf., , FR, Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, 13.IV, p.235, , Ort unbekannt, 100%, F, , ,

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Joel

Since I am not familiar with the archives you quote, I have basically the same info as provided by Jim.
Mombeek has one printing error, listing WNr 341251 (didn't exist as a Fw 190 A-7) instead of 340251.

Mombeek lists both WNr 642557 (not listed by Prien) and the two III./JG 2 sundry losses, so at least he
did not think one of them could have been 642557, but I am more inclined to go with Jim in this case.

Checking a third source (Fred Trendle) makes no difference, he has not got WNr 642557 either.

Obviously Mombeek and Joel must have consulted the same sources, since neither Prien, Balls nor
Trendle has located that WNr.

Perhaps Matti can shed some light on the problem?

Cheers
Stig