Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 16th January 2018, 12:50
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Capt Alexandre GC II/2

Can anyone please tell me his christian name and his fate as there appears to be contradictory dates
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 16th January 2018, 13:52
Xerumbe Xerumbe is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lyon, Fr
Posts: 144
Xerumbe is on a distinguished road
Re: Capt Alexandre GC II/2

Capitaine ALEXANDRE 4th Escadrille GC II/2 Killed in action 13 Mai 1940 (near Montdidier ?). I don't know his christian name.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 16th January 2018, 17:13
Laurent Rizzotti Laurent Rizzotti is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 2,917
Laurent Rizzotti is on a distinguished road
Re: Capt Alexandre GC II/2

There is nothing on his death in "The battle of France then and now" or "Ils étaient là". And I don't find him either on the French WWII war dead database at http://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defe...ale/index.php?

On the site https://www.passionair1940.fr, there are crew lists for French air units in 1940, with some complete names I have not seen elsewhere, but here again (https://www.passionair1940.fr/Armee%...-2/GC_II-2.htm) there is only his family name.

He survived the crash of a D501 on 13 April 1938, but still no Christian name.... I really don't undertstand why French documents are using so few Christian names, but it has been a big problem for me since years.
http://pics-aeronef.discutfree.com/t6418-dewoitine-d501


I tried to check some French newspapers of April 1938 in cas the accident was reported, and found a Bloch 210 crash on 12 April (not reported in my list of accidents that was available once on the website of the Service Historique de la Défense) and a fighter on the 13rd, but this case is a fatal crash (three D.501 of the 2e Escadre de Chasse had accidents this same day, including Alexandre and the case reported in the newspapers). By the way, the full name of the kileld pilot, Fernand Cailhol, is given while the names of the five crew of the Block, some of them being heavily wounded, were not.

Some more accidents, with newspapers reports and pictures, but still no Christian name...
https://www.bibert.fr/Joseph_Bibert_...#Dewoitine_500
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 17th January 2018, 20:56
Bertrand H Bertrand H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Dijon, FRANCE
Posts: 818
Bertrand H is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Capt Alexandre GC II/2

Hi Chris,

On 12 june 1940 Cne Jean Alexandre posted from 4ème Escadrille of GC II/2 to Commandant en second of GC II/2.

He died on 21/10/1952 in French Indiochinia.

Of course we can forget passionair which is a site of compilation anf full up of mistakes.

Bertrand
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18th January 2018, 11:02
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Re: Capt Alexandre GC II/2

Bertrand-thanks. One record said killed 13 May 40, another said killed June 40!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18th January 2018, 12:40
Bertrand H Bertrand H is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Dijon, FRANCE
Posts: 818
Bertrand H is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Capt Alexandre GC II/2

What is the loss do you have in your files ?

The name of the pilot certainly wrong !

Bertrand
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18th January 2018, 12:47
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Re: Capt Alexandre GC II/2

This is what I found in various sources
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 18th January 2018, 16:01
Xerumbe Xerumbe is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lyon, Fr
Posts: 144
Xerumbe is on a distinguished road
Re: Capt Alexandre GC II/2

I confirm that there is indeed a mistake: Captain (Jean) Alexandre is listed in the GC II / 2 staff at least until June 15th ... There was no casualty in this group near Montdidier in May 13th. This topic allows to renew the database
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Aces of the P-38 Kocab Zdenek Allied and Soviet Air Forces 1 15th September 2021 22:09
24 September 1939: GC II/4 vs JGr 152 and I./JG 53 Laurent Rizzotti Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 12th November 2012 09:40
GC 1/145 10 June 1940 Brian Allied and Soviet Air Forces 12 2nd November 2008 20:18
Capt. Harold J. Sullivan 363nd 378th 28. March 1945 Peglar Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 1 11th March 2007 12:57
Capt. J. O. Ruscitto, 350th FS, 353rd FG. cz_raf Allied and Soviet Air Forces 0 25th September 2006 18:47


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:53.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net