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Old 15th May 2013, 03:04
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Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Hi Guys,

I am trying to ID a Fw190 wreck that a US veteran took a photo of.

I only have a photo of the tail area, and a BLACK 5 is prominent...followed by only the edge of another letter (why oh why couldn't vet's take a photo fof the entire code?).



Caption states:

"Fw190 Nordholz, Germany July 10, 1945. During Hostilities, the 406th fighter bomber group, consisting of 3 squadrons 512-513, and the 514th, had a field day stafing and bombing this permament German airbase. I was in the 514th, 9th Airforce."

Any ideas on this one??

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Old 15th May 2013, 10:18
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Hi there,

can you reveal any additional details? Are parts of the Werknummer legible or can you identify any Gruppe-symbol?

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Old 15th May 2013, 15:06
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Hi!

Werk # is not visible, as the tail is wrecked...


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Old 15th May 2013, 16:07
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Mike,

are you sure that it is "Nordholz"? During 1944/45 only nightfighters from NJG 3 were based there.

The Fw 190D-9 equipped II./JG 26 was based at "Nordhorn" until March 1945, this may be a better candidate for the destroyed Fw 190 fighter.
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Old 15th May 2013, 16:20
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

so far,

this is the only photos I have.




The veteran documented EVERYTHING...so the location has to be exact.

I do not know US historuy very much...did the 406th fighter bomber group attack this air base during the time he wrote?

He brought back a large lot of instrument he removed from other aircraft he found at this airport...and many are from Ju88's (such as a Ju88 Fuel Gauge)...so NJG3 could be correct. Possibly this 190 was left there as a derelict?

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Old 15th May 2013, 17:11
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Hi Mike,
thanks for sharing this photo - not the usual Fw 190, that's for sure

The high tactical number normally indicates a training unit, but unfortunately none of those were ever stationed at Nordholz or even in the closer vicinity. However, if you look farther, some of the more northern-based training units, like SG 104 or JG 102, could have been the parent units of our bird, but that's pure speculation on my part!

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Old 15th May 2013, 17:27
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

could be a vertical bar, no? As opposed to a number?

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Old 15th May 2013, 17:36
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Looks like a "1" to me. At least the small part visible above the maintenance opening gives this impression...
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Old 15th May 2013, 17:42
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Thanks harrison987, this is really an out of the common Fw 190. The camouflage is really light toned (RLM 76 with some RLM 75 sprayed blotches ?). Could it be a NJG machine? As for the tactical number, I concur with Christian: "Schwarze 51".

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Old 16th May 2013, 00:01
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Re: Info needed on Fw190 wreck located at Nordholz

Hello Merlin,

A He219 of the I./NJG 1 was also found at Nordholz after VE-Day while this unit was never stationed there. Somehow 406 FG does ring a bell: I do still hope that some day a photo of this He219 pops up.

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