Need Unit ID of Ju86 with Pre-War Code 32+L410

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

I'm trying to caption a photo for my DB of a pre-war Ju86 with the codes 32+L410. The lists in my references don't include this. A code of 32+X39 would be 9./KG253 (later 9./KG4), but doesn't show L410 as a possible number. If KG243 had a IV Gruppe, this would be 11 Staffel, but i don't see any reference to that. Is this possibly some kind of Stab code for KG253?

Thanks for any help on this.

[Dénes Bernád]

This particular photo is/was on sale on eBay.

[Peter D Evans]

It beats me too! Just when you think you've cracked this coding system, along comes a code like this which defies the logic. We have a thread on the pre-war Luftkreiskommando coding system on the LEMB via the link below:

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...showtopic=5000

Any chance of the image being posted here please?

Cheers

Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[edNorth]

L410 = "L" of IV Gruppen, 10 Staffeln

cheers
ed

[Peter D Evans]

Cheers for that Ed

One additional question, is that then IV Gruppe/Kampfgeschwader 153?

Cheers

Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[Larry Hickey]

Peter,

Take a look at :

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330227177655&ru=http%3 A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll% 3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D330227177 655%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1>

I still need to know what unit this became during the change over in unit designations during the spring of 1939.

Thanx for the comments so far.

[Peter D Evans]

Thanks for the link Larry... with regards this coding system, every time I think I've cracked it, along comes a code like this...

cheers

Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[Doug Stankey]

I have long been intrigued by the prewar period and have given it quite a bit of study. I can semi-definitively state that the code in question is that of 10./KG 153 which used Ju 86s from August 1937 until it was renamed II./KG 252 on November 1, 1938.

If you will pardon the plug, all this is in our book "Bomber Units of the Luftwaffe, A Reference Source".

[Peter D Evans]

I'll second that plug Doug Congrats on two very nice volumes...

Cheers

Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[Doug Stankey]

So you think that was a tough code, try this (from a recent Ed West photo)

25+D37 on a Ju86

or how about:
2L+D21 on a Do 17E

or how about:
2L+W40 on a Ju 52

or:
"dot" 04+01 on a Ju 52.

Once you've despaired, I will tell you what these are!
Here's a couple I can't solve:

03+F30 on a He 51.
07+A16 on a Ju 52

Enjoy!