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Old 2nd June 2018, 22:48
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Sadly, me being a pessimist at heart, the seller probably has all the photos he/she uses stored on their hard drive w/o watermarks!

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Old 2nd June 2018, 22:57
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

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Sadly, me being a pessimist at heart, the seller probably has all the photos he/she uses stored on their hard drive w/o watermarks!

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You're certainly correct; if they will try to market them again, especially with the given captions, this will be obvious again, and we will be able to react.

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Old 2nd June 2018, 23:09
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Here two quick trials:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/41618845765
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...n/photostream/

Any advice ?

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Old 2nd June 2018, 23:44
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Marc:

Well...they certainly works....

What I try and do, when sending out my photos to our color profiler for WOTBC, is to place watermarks in such a way that they are obvious, but don't detract from the overall image. For example, the watermarks I place will go thru the top of the rudder only, or thru the gear legs and tail wheel only, not through the center of the fuselage obliterating markings. That ruins the photo. If that to happen, then they may as well be taken off the 'net completely. I try and place the watermark where it is difficult to use Photoshops program to obliterate it w/o harming the subject matter, but enough to try and maintain its overall integrity. Try and think like a thief...is that watermark placed in such a way as to make my effort at removing worth my while or even possible.

Another consideration for placement is thru areas where there are a number of multiple colors. For example, a watermark thru grass and capturing the wheels at the same time a great option. I avoid watermarks in the sky of photos. To easy to remove.

You could also consider multiple watermarks around the subject. I have done that for EE and the decal sheet instructions I created with my photos. Again, I try and avoid obliterating the main subject matter, but place numerous watermarks around it.

Sadly, that is what this has come to now!

I hope this helps and I am very sympathetic to your cause.

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Old 3rd June 2018, 07:42
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Marc


Is there a way to share access to your 'Private" collection to those deemed trustworthy? It seems a shame to collectively punish both those who would abuse the permissions and those who would not . Especially, persons who have shared images with you to post on your site.


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Old 3rd June 2018, 19:39
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

D.B.,

I fully understand your feeling. Alas, there will be at first the fastidious watermarking process before the photos will be made public again...

Check just now eBay for 109's, and there you see the problem is way not over: another "player" is lifting again photos and slightly modified captions for offering them at 3.99 Euros:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Messerschmitt...kAAOSw-VtbEyHc

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Old 3rd June 2018, 19:40
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Marc:

Well...they certainly works....

What I try and do, when sending out my photos to our color profiler for WOTBC, is to place watermarks in such a way that they are obvious, but don't detract from the overall image. For example, the watermarks I place will go thru the top of the rudder only, or thru the gear legs and tail wheel only, not through the center of the fuselage obliterating markings. That ruins the photo. If that to happen, then they may as well be taken off the 'net completely. I try and place the watermark where it is difficult to use Photoshops program to obliterate it w/o harming the subject matter, but enough to try and maintain its overall integrity. Try and think like a thief...is that watermark placed in such a way as to make my effort at removing worth my while or even possible.

Another consideration for placement is thru areas where there are a number of multiple colors. For example, a watermark thru grass and capturing the wheels at the same time a great option. I avoid watermarks in the sky of photos. To easy to remove.

You could also consider multiple watermarks around the subject. I have done that for EE and the decal sheet instructions I created with my photos. Again, I try and avoid obliterating the main subject matter, but place numerous watermarks around it.

Sadly, that is what this has come to now!

I hope this helps and I am very sympathetic to your cause.

Mark Proulx

Thanks for you support and guidance, Mark.

Sincerely
Marc
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Old 30th August 2018, 23:49
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hi there, Gang,

Here some fresh images wich do need some additional research:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEUG...AAAOSwVMlbhYB1

http://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEUG...4AAOSw8b9bhYAv

Said to be JG 54 at Strausberg, Winter 1944 - 1945.

Both machines to be seen are from JG 77 as clearly shown by their red heart emblem. The first picture shows a G-14: "Weisse 1", is from I./JG 77 which was equipped from August 1944 onwards with Bf 109 G-14's before relinquishing them early 1945 for the Bf 109 K-4's. Possible location could be Dortmund as Stab and I./JG 77 were stationed there between October 44 and 18 January 1945.

The second photo is clearly a Bf 109 G-6 with short antenna mast and D/F loop. As this type was definitely withdrawn by I./JG 77 at the end of September 1944 by then fully equipped with new G-14's, it can't be a late 1944 photo as the trees framing the machine are leafless. Hence the possibility this shot being taken in Italy, before April 1944.

Any possible confirmation for the location or any other details in relation with this rare portfolio ?

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Old 9th September 2018, 21:06
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hi there Gang,

Again from the same superlative photographic portfolio from former photographic technician Vaughan Pitman, 493 Squadron Air Service Group:

1. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 460 520 "Rote 11", 10./JG 76, Plivot near Athis, September 1944.
https://vaughanpitman.com/2018/01/18...9ea32f87f/2084

2. B 109 G-8 W.Nr. 202 072 "Schwarze 3", 2./NAGr. ?, Germany, Spring 1945. Notice behind "Schwarze 3" the wrecked Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 334 809. Location remains a mystery.
https://vaughanpitman.com/2018/01/18...9ea32f87f/2077

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Old 10th September 2018, 13:56
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Concerning #889

Werknummer 202072 was reported 4. April 1945 at Göttingen airfield with 2./NAG 1 (Ultra Hw5/688). It was captured on this place some days later Source is A-382 dated 18. April 1945 which strangely only has two Bf 109 K4s, Werknummern 334151 and 334252 (the last one reported like G6).

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