possible USAF F-84 or F-104 shot down near Strasbourg?

[Flyingkag]

Hi all,

I for some years found some plane parts in a wood in the Vosges mountains about 30 miles NW of Strasbourg, eastern France (boarder with Germany).

One part shows the USAF white star on dark blue circle.

the concerned plane was a jet plane that crashed in a forest in late 50'.

Only one part with manufacturer stamp I found showed the CVSD stamp (convair).

What for a plane could it be?

I have no documentation about post-war jet-planes

here some parst of it; it did a great cratere as hitting teh hill in forest. No munitions were found on teh ground.

Thanks for any help.

Flyingkag

[Flyingkag]

Sorry pictures were not loaded; here they are

[Bill Walker]

A US Convair in Europe in the late 1950s would probably be an F-102 or an F-106. Is that camouflage paint next to the star? I have seen camouflaged F-102s, but never an F-106. They were always white all over.

[Flyingkag]

hi Bill,

Thanks for your quick answer;

As you can see on the first sent picture, there is dark olive colour around (and under) the USAF star emblem. I have found other parts of wings/fuselage with others colours like grey, kind of brown, white...also it seems to have been camouflaged.

here attached a detail of the part with the CVSD stamp with a number; maybe could it help to identify the model of jet?

written on that dick part is:

CVSD 1925
H 65E 33244-2 OD

I hope this helps

[Bill Walker]

According to this web site the CVSD stamp is almost certainly an F-102. Now, who can find an F-102 crash for this date and location?

This photo shows camouflaged F-102s at Bitburg, Germany in 1966.

[Flyingkag]

Thanks Bill,

If it maybe can help for a localisation, nearest towns of the "probable F-102" crash site are maybe given as LICHTENBERG, or REIPERTSWILLER or maybe ROTHBACH.

It seems you could be interested about another crash here in same area;

it concerns a canadian Sabre that crashed in the little village of Lichtenberg on december 5th 1960; I have had a statement of a villager who had observed the plane crah in the village (two civilain were lost as the plane crashed on their house).

The canadian pilot had bailed out very far from the crash site, maybe over Luxembourg according to that old man.

The plane I'm looking about isn't that one...but crashed just some kilometers from it. Sure "mine" was an USAF one.

I know a little bit more if the canadian one interests you.

cheers

mathias