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Re: B-17 raid Frankfurt, 29 January 1944
Thanks chaps. I have the JG26 and JG2 books so will hit the books tomorrow
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Re: B-17 raid Frankfurt, 29 January 1944
Hi,
Here is Johannes list which is shortened to B17 and time of loss before 1200 hrs ( and unknowns ). 5./JG27 B-17 1052 hrs Karl-Heinz Bendert 9./JG3 B-17 1100 hrs Heinz Papendick Stab.II./JG27 B-17 1102 hrs Werner Schroer Stab.I./JG26 B-17 1105 hrs Karl Borris 5./JG27 B-17 1106 hrs Heinz Schlechter 7./JG3 B-17 1106 hrs Kurt Graf 7./JG3 B-17 1107 hrs Franz Birnstill Stab.III./JG3 B-17 1107 hrs Walter Dahl 8./JG3 1110 hrs Raimund Koch 8./JG3 B-17 1111 hrs Bruno Bolowski 7./JG3 B-17 1114 hrs Kurt Graf 2./JG26 B-17 1115 hrs Weide 7./JG3 B-17 1117 hrs Gerhard Pankalla Stab.III./JG3 B-17 1117 hrs Jürgen Hoerschelmann Stab.III./JG3 B-17 1127 hrs Erwin Stahlberg 8./JG3 B-17 1137 hrs Hans Hedermann 5./JG27 B-17 1140 hrs Eberhard Schade 2./JG26 B-17 1145 hrs & 1152-1210 hrs Weide 4./JG26 "viermot" 1152-1210 hrs e.v(unknown pilot) 4./JG26 B-17 1152-1210 hrs Wolfgang Neu 5./NJG6 B-17 e.v 1155 hrs Karl-Heinz Grünert 2./ZG76 1135 hrs(no other details) 1./ZG76 1137 hrs(no other details 1./ZG76 1139 hrs(no other details) 2./ZG76 1139 hrs(no other details) Stab./ZG76 1140 hrs(no other details) 5./ZG76 1140 hrs(no other details) 6./ZG76 1140 hrs(no other details) 1./ZG76 1141 hrs(no other details) 2./ZG76 1142 hrs(no other details) 6./ZG76 1142 hrs(no other details) 4./ZG76 1144 hrs(type unknown) Heinrich Leitz 6./ZG76 1145 hrs(no other details) 1./ZG76 1146 hrs(no other details) Stab.III./ZG76 1152 hrs(no other details) 2./ZG76 1135 hrs(no other details) 1./ZG76 1137 hrs(no other details 1./ZG76 1139 hrs(no other details) 2./ZG76 1139 hrs(no other details) Stab./ZG76 1140 hrs(no other details) 5./ZG76 1140 hrs(no other details) 6./ZG76 1140 hrs(no other details) 1./ZG76 1141 hrs(no other details) 2./ZG76 1142 hrs(no other details) 6./ZG76 1142 hrs(no other details) 4./ZG76 1144 hrs(type unknown) Heinrich Leitz 6./ZG76 1145 hrs(no other details) 1./ZG76 1146 hrs(no other details) Stab.III./ZG76 1152 hrs(no other details) Keith, I gave the JG26 details in an earlier post. Here they are again. Schneider Fw190 - 470237 Kia. Reichmann Fw190 -530749 Kia. Lissack Fw190 - 410207 Wia. They were in combat with the 20 the FG's P38's. As for JG2, they claimed 1 B24 and 3 P47's. And 1/SKG 10 claimed a B17 at 1236 hrs. Alex Last edited by Alex Smart; 2nd November 2020 at 22:47. |
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Re: B-17 raid Frankfurt, 29 January 1944
JG26 does not seem like a bet. No pilots were lost to P-47s and Whisner was protecting a B-17 formation. JG-26 did claim B-17s but these seem like they were damaged B-17s flying alone. JG-2 seems possible but I don't see any losses on that date.
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Re: B-17 raid Frankfurt, 29 January 1944
Just a note to correct my earlier post, Whisner did not claim the pilot bailed out, in fact he only claimed it was diving, smoking badly. It may be the Fw190 reached home with a few holes. Sorry chaps, I seem to have mixed up the facts.
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