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14.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
Dears ,
I need more information about crew (unit) and a/c shout down by Russian fire of AA Ju-52 on 14.01.1945 in Hungary (probably near to East side of Budapest). A/c was with code: 4V+FV Crew: 2 pilots - burned in wrack 1 was Russian POW 1 escaped from warck before explosion BR Kris
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Re: 1x.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
So everything was written in Internet:
1945-01-14, 11./TG 3, Ju 52/3m, 6333, Budapest, Unbekannt. Bruch 100%. Flugzeugführer Fw Haufe, Johannes, vermißt Bordfunker Fw Schneck, Wilhelm, vermißt Bordmechaniker Uffz Dekarz, Helmut, vermißt http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=36298 https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19450114-3 and was 4th member of crew for sure it is at Russian report.
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Re: 1x.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
Zugligeti-Budakeszi Strasse Western Budapest
Abgeschossen 23h50 radio.op. got captured (he told his plane letter-code to the soviets during interrogation as a POW!), while 2 other people burned in the plane Dekarz helmut uffz bm dead Haufe johannes fw f dead Schneck wilhelm fw bf POW Rémi |
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Re: 1x.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
Here is small part of Russian report:
1 - crew member POW 2 - members burned inside of a/c 1 - escaped/jumped from a/c before exploded in air
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Re: 1x.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
Question is crew was 3 or 4 ??
Norm. crew for the Ju52 was 4 even at night Rémi |
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Re: 1x.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
Ju 52, WNr.: 6333 was downed by 17 ВА, 1654 аэр. полк ПВО, but 17 ВА, 1614 аэр. полк ПВО also claimed it.
The crashing plane damaged a 76.2 mm (probably Zis-3) gun of the soviet 627th Art. Reg. at Zugliget-N, 1 km. (A favorite hiking area in the Buda hills and forests in the Western side of Budapest, near the Janos (John)-Hill lookout.) Survivor radioman, Fw Wilhelm Schneck was captured and interrogated by them. Attached pic shows the remains of a Ju 52 in the Buda hills, probably in the summer of 1945. Perhaps this plane.... Gabor Last edited by HGabor; 12th July 2021 at 17:34. |
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Re: 1x.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
11./TG3 ---- 2 crew members:
1) Bordfunker === Fw Schneck, Wilhelm, "...Fw Wilhelm Schneck was captured and interrogated by them. ..." 2) Bordmechaniker === Uffz Dekarz, Helmut, Helmut Dekarz ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Saldus (Frauenburg) Endgrablage: Block V Reihe 2 Grab 62 ==== not sure is it the same person ? Place where he was born looks the same = Gelsenkirchen 3) ??? 4) ??? Question is crew was 3 or 4 ?? --- seems to me from Russian raport looks like 4 members of crew So somewhere here "János-hegy": https://www.google.com/maps/place/J%...591667!5m1!1e4
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Re: 1x.01.1945 = Ju-52 = Hungary
1)
Bordfunker === Fw Schneck, Wilhelm, "...Fw Wilhelm Schneck was captured and interrogated by them. ..." 2) Bordmechaniker === Uffz Dekarz, Helmut, Helmut Dekarz ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Saldus (Frauenburg) Endgrablage: Block V Reihe 2 Grab 62 ==== not sure is it the same person ? Place where he was born looks the same = Gelsenkirchen 3)Haufe wilhelm fw Fz-Führer /Pilot 4) ... if any ! |
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