Something wrong in the info about the loss of the Bf109 (Uffz Kerkhoff) - Kuban 30.Apr.43

[G.R.Morrison]

Franck,

"5A" indicates it was a second, replacement machine of the unit, coded "5". There are other examples of this practice, applied to Bf 109s, Hs 129, etc.

GRM

[ouidjat]

Hi GRM,

OK! But when you write 7./Rum.JGr. Do you mean 7 Grupul Vanatoare? That is a Rumanian fighting group ...
But when you write "7./Rum.JGr." I'm looking for a LW unit and I don't know it.

In that case, we can effectively find a couple of pictures in Marc's Flickr page where the planes are coded Xa, with a small "a" not capital "A".
Am I right? (See White 43a, quite known photo)
(Or "b" ... by the way. See White 23b (Edit & edit always edit: In fact I'm afraid it's Yellow 23b instead). Cannot find the link: Please Marc Add a Rumanian tag!!!!! )

Thanks to you I know the reason of that letter!

Regards, Franck.

[RolandF]

Hi Franck,
I´m convinced it is the same unit. Whereas 7 Grupul Vanoatore is the correct Rumanian designation it might appear as 7. rumänische Jagdgruppe (abbr. 7./Rum.JGr.) when mentioned in official German documents. This does not mean it is a German unit but it is the translation of the Rumanian term.

Regards

Roland

[ouidjat]

Didn't know but this is an elegant way to resolve some difficulties I have to store data.
Thank you Roland.

[Johannes]

Hi Guys

The foremost authority on Jg52 Bernd Barbas has told me that Kerkhoff on this day had a dogfight over Cholmski, 70km East of Anapa on the road from Noworossisk to Krasnodar during which he was indeed wounded, but actually returned to his airfield, therefore was not shot down, and the damage was so light that it wasn't mentioned!

Regards

Johannes

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Thank you, Johannes!

And thanks to Mr. Barbas.

Best regards,
Andret