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Old 23rd March 2020, 20:13
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

Thank You Rémi

Works like a charm!

Also thanks Leo

Nice to find the correct WNr of "0678"
But I don't understand why GQM changes the date from 20 April 1943 to 20 Feb. Makes no sense. I doubt British Intelligence/Fighter Command would make a mistake when the aircraft came down off Britain and the date the crew became POW/KIA.
There is no claim on 20 Feb (seems no recorded action what so ever from Fighter Command on that date) while on 20 April Lt M Ericsen claimed a Ju 88 10 mls off Clacton at 11.50H (which is where/when WNr 0678 came down)

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Old 23rd March 2020, 21:22
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

Hello Stig,

in a second correction (26 June 1943) is listed:
Lt Bäumer, Hans nicht tot, sondern verletzt in englischer Gefangenschaft.

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Old 23rd March 2020, 21:27
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

Thanks Leo

Yes, the British rescued Bäumer from the sea while his two comrades had to pay the ultimate prize.

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Old 23rd March 2020, 21:55
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

Remi & JoMe, this is strange and rather embarrassing, my basic text shows 0678 as C-7 (verified in WW2 doc) and GN+OQ (interpolated), this was ex-A-5 but my C-7 (types text and work in progress) file showed GM+ZC, but that source looks dubious. Neither stkz. are verified from sources, and I typed in the wrong one. Apologies - comparision to Hs 130 had been overlooked (now partly verified), understandable as I thought not have any Henschel related logbooks - wrong! And many here seems have their own personal errors and are of course excused and have their right to be wrong. Thus the 0648 (GE+YM J&P) and 0678 are the two C-7´s thought be known, but there was one more in some planning report.

Returning on topic, no no no, the Ju 88 T-3´s (all were converted S-3s), made in January and February 1945 (are) suspected not be new (despite 6. Abt. delivery records) and were not the 330221 block, and more are scatterd all over (about 41 assigned), I think them 12 T-3 in Jan/Feb are in the late 3313xx and 334xx blocks, and possible three there I have known. The 0221 block was from summer 1944. My S-3 blocks are fully worked out but not fully edited or checked off.
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Old 23rd March 2020, 22:46
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

I hv one look at Darré log, looks really that the Hs130 was ....GM+ZC, so my apologises

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Old 23rd March 2020, 23:03
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

Hs 130 GM+ZG Rechlin 13.05.42 (FB Staege)
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Old 24th March 2020, 11:03
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

The correction for the loss date for C-7 0678 must be wrong.
The aircraft was in FRW Villacoublay from 01.03.1943 - 03.03.1943 for repair.
(RL 3/1919)


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Old 24th March 2020, 14:03
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

Hi

These are interesting posts.
The Ju 88/0678 was actually lost in 1943 (I have made a mistake).
Interestingly, only three casualties are listed, which actually points to a Ju 88 C / T. The version of the Ju 88 is unfortunately not listed.
Maybe there is a "crashed enemy aircraft report" for this aircraft ?
I think the SKZ GM + OQ (sorry, it must be GN + OQ) is very likely.

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Old 24th March 2020, 18:10
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Re: Ju-88T-2/3 NM+HQ

post 38 GM+OQ ? Not GN+OQ ?
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Old 24th March 2020, 20:29
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#37 Agree. Clearly written C-7 678.
#38 No Ju 88 T had been made or delivered by time of loss (20.04.43). Sources state C-7 678 (without the 0 but that was very common), and loss sais Ju 88 0678 (narrowing possibilties considerably) but strength list (www2.dk) for 1.(V)/Ob.d.L. does not appear in that website. Maybe it was never there?
#39 GN+O is correct block. Several pictures are of A-5 0673 GN+OL at Villa (30.08.44) and colour video on youtube or Critical Past, and that plane was there for long time and never left, scrapped by Allies as already shot up. Its final scheme appears single-tone Dark Green (French?) and very similar to French Gray (darker then Hallgrau or Hellblau).
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