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Old 22nd March 2020, 17:31
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Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Hi guys

I have a note that nine Russian TRLS-IV (mobile?) radars were operating in the Murmansk area in 1941-42.

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Old 22nd March 2020, 20:50
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Hi Brian,


The Russians did field some of their own radars but my studies show the majority were provided via Lend-Lease and of those, some may have been modified or simply renamed. Can I ask you what the source is for this designation?


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Old 23rd March 2020, 12:56
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Hi Ed

I've sent you a PM.

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Old 23rd March 2020, 17:21
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Message received.


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Old 24th March 2020, 21:02
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Hello,
there are references that at the beginning of the War (June 1941) in the North there were nine stations RUS-1 " Reven' " (Rhubarb) out of 45 production total. There are also references that in 1941-1942 engineer A.N.Volzhin, who served the RUS-2 station in Murmansk, used parts of the English SON-2 and wires from the downed Ju-88, created the "Rosa" station, which, due to its favorable position, found targets 160 km above land and sea.
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Old 24th March 2020, 21:25
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

As I understand Russian radar capabilities during this time period, any land radars were used for warning only. They could not give the altitude of the incoming aircraft. They were not mobile. It would make sense to deploy a number around Murmansk. However, the designation appears to be an acronym. The Son-2a was a copy of one of the first British radars to reach Russia.

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Old 25th March 2020, 11:22
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Thanks guys

Most interesting. On Wikipedia site 'Radar in World War II' under Soviet Union heading is reference to early radar, which confirms your comments. Great stuff.

Two pictures attached to the piece suggest RUS-1 and RUS-2 were encased within trucks - were these not mobile?

Although RUS-1 was apparently deemed ineffective, was it able to detect aircraft?

Do we know which vessel delivered the GL Mark II set to Murmansk, and the date of arrival - sometime in January 1942?

I've read somewhere that the set was 'removed' clandestinely without British permission - any additional information, please?

Keep it coming!

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Old 25th March 2020, 17:20
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Hello,
RLS <Reven'> adopted in 1939 as RUS-1 (Radio Ulavlivatel' Samoletov 1th) - In a set 1 installation of radiation and up to two-three installations of catching (all on the GAZ-AAA type car). Spaced group (2 receiver and 1 transmitter) created a band along the front of 70 km and a height of 12 km, at the intersection by which aircraft detected.

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Old 25th March 2020, 19:28
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Hi Brian,


Yes, Rus I was set up in two or three trucks (depending on the source). But there was 35 kilometers between the sender and receiver(s). Triangulation was used to get the direction. After that, ground observers and sound locators were used. I suggest looking up these two men: Viktor Tikhomirov and Mikael A. Bonch-Bruevich. Both were involved in Russian radar development.


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Old 25th March 2020, 22:09
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Re: Russian radars Far North 1941-42

Hello

You will find a long article on Russian radar developments before and during WW2 here :
https://www.ursi.org/content/RSB/RSB_358_2016_09.pdf
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