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Old 14th August 2013, 12:25
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Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Bonjour,

I am looking for information about the two aircrews below:

I would like to know the crew positions and aircraft data for this crew belonging to the KG 4 (11. or 12. Staffel?) and lost on July 7, 1943:
Uffz. Callenbach Georg
Lt. Stockhusen Helmut
Gefr. Emde Friedrich
Olt. Roemer Dietrich
Gerfr. Ochsmann Manfred
Ogefr. Rupprecht Heinrich
Ofw. Bösenberg Bernard

And I would like also to know the crew positions for these airmen belonging to the 9./KG 40, whose Fw-200 was shot-down on January 27, 1944:
Fw. Nothelfer Karl
Uffz. Schwarz Walter
Uffz. Prettner Raimund
Ofw. Schmidt Willy Anton
Uffz. Reinhardt Wilhelm

Thanks a lot beforehand for your assistance.
Best regards,
Frederic
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Old 14th August 2013, 15:18
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Hi Frederic - found this entry on GQM report dated 10-7-43 :- 6-7-43 'H' He111 H6 4263 of IV/KG4 crashed in flames by La Charite 100%. FF Ltn. Helmut Stockhusen, Bf Uffz. Georg Callenbach, Bm Pruf.a.E Heinz Hinkelmann, Bm Werka.E Max Buttner all killed. The date is confirmed on a later entry dated 13-1-43 whish is clearer to read which appears to change the status of Hinkelmann and Buttner from aircrew to ground personnel ?

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Old 14th August 2013, 15:46
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Hello Brian,

Thank you for these details. As I have the Bourges "Heldenfriedhof" list I will check for the names of Hinkelmann and Buttner. I made a mistake of date with the five last airmen of KG 4. The right date is August 23, 1943. Plane hit a power-line while flying at low level near St Thiebault (a place known as "Beaufroid")

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Old 14th August 2013, 16:14
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Hello Frederic, just found the second one, GQM report dated 26-8-43 - on 23-8-43 IV/KG4 'H' by Bannay crashed and burnt out following engine trouble He111H6 4919 1005, Ff Ofw Hermann Bosenberg (umlaut over o), B Oblt.Dieter Romer (umlaut over o), B Gef.Fritz Emde, Bf Ogef Heinrich Rupprecht, Bs Gef Manfred Ochsmann all killed,

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Old 14th August 2013, 16:26
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Bonjour Brian,

Thank you so much for these additional details. I keep you posted about the ground personnel.

See you soon,
Frederic
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Fw 200, date 27.01.1944, One shot down near Bourges, France, by RAF Mosquitos of 418 (RCAF) SQ (apx 16:30 hrs). No W.Nr., code or crew positions in old file of mine.
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Old 14th August 2013, 19:55
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Hello edNorth,

I got the details via my private email address. Thanks you for your answer.

All the best,
Frederic
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Old 16th August 2013, 16:16
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

In respect of the Fw 200, Schmidt-F, Reinhardt-B, Schwarz. & Prettner-BF & Nothelfer-BM
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Old 16th August 2013, 18:27
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

Hello and merci Chris for these details.

I take the opportunity to ask you. Any other accidents while the KG 40 was at Avord airfield? Aircrafts damaged without airmen injured.

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Old 16th August 2013, 18:29
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Re: Seeking info on KG 4 and KG 40 aircrews

If it was 1944, I am afraid unless there were casualties, getting details are highly unlikely.
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