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Old 15th February 2018, 18:24
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Ju 87 Panzerjäger

Some time ago (2012 maybe) a notepad was sold on ebay with notices of person somehow connected to Versuchsstaffel für Panzerbekämpfung, possibly from Rechlin.

Among other things there is also a listing of what seem to be Ju 87 Gs of Panzerjagdstaffel Stuka 1. They are listed by the letters A to H and X, Y, Z.
Aircraft 'B' is listed as lost on 14.7.43 (Notlandung mit Überschlag, gesprengt) and there is corresponding loss known (Werk-Nr. 131082).
However the a/c with letters 'A' and 'G' are also listed as lost on the ground on 20.7.43 at Orel (Jagdbeschuss und Bombe, ausgeschlachtet). I cannot find corresponding losses for Stuka 1. Maybe they were listed as losses of some non-combat unit before officially accepted by Stuka 1?

Any thoughts?

BTW there is one aircraft listed as Hptm. Rudel's with letter 'D'.

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Old 16th February 2018, 18:44
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Re: Ju 87 Panzerjäger

Hello Pawel,

I have the following fragments:

10th (Pz.) SG2, Eastern front, 1945
10th (Pz.) SG2, Husi (Slovakia), 1944
III/SG2, Oberst Hans Ulrich Rudel, Hungary, September 1944

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Old 16th February 2018, 19:03
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Re: Ju 87 Panzerjäger

Minor correction: Husi is in Moldavia (Rumania).
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Old 16th February 2018, 21:07
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Re: Ju 87 Panzerjäger

Thank you, Dénes.
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Old 16th February 2018, 22:40
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Re: Ju 87 Panzerjäger

It appears that 10.(Pz)/SG 3 also adds to the picture.

http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Ju-87G/10(Pz)SG3.html

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Old 18th February 2018, 20:56
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Re: Ju 87 Panzerjäger

I found the following on another message board:

Meyer, Bruno. Einsatz von Schlachtfliegeren
[Operation of ground attack pilots]
Ref. K113.3019-3.
HQ, USAF Historical Research Center,
Maxwell AFB, Alabama, March 24, 1953.


Kupfer, Ernst. Schlachtflieger, Panzerjagd und Storflugzeuge
in Jahre 1943
[Ground attack, antitank and nuisance aircraft
in the year of 1943].
Transcript of speech. Ref. K113.3019-3.
HQ, USAF Historical Research Center,
Maxwell AFB, Alabama, September 10, 1943. [1953, Ed.]


Maass, General. Die dem Heer im Kriege taktisch unterstellen
Verbande der Luftwaffe
[German Air Force units tactically subordinate
to the army in war].
Ref. K113.836.
HQ, USAF Historical Research Center,
Maxwell AFB, Alabama, September 13, 1956.


Hitschold, Hubertus. Die Schlacht fliegerei in der Deutschen
Luftwaffe.
[Ground attack in the German Air Force]
Ref. K113.3019-3.
HQ, USAF Historical Research Center,
Maxwell AFB, Alabama, February 12, 1957.


Galland, Adolf, and Hitschold, Hubertus. Entwicklung der
Schlachtflieger.
[Development of ground attack]
Historical Analysis. Ref. K113.3019-3.
HQ, USAF Historical Research Center,
Maxwell AFB, Alabama, February 1, 1957.
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Old 18th February 2018, 21:13
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Re: Ju 87 Panzerjäger

Thank you Ed, there is also some information on early operations of Panzerjagdstaffel / V.f.P. here -
http://yogysoft.de/pawel/stuka2_01.html

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