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Old 3rd February 2020, 11:38
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researching three MACRs

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I would like to read MACRs numbers 3479 (B-17 serial 42-31363 - 306th BG/368th BS), 3540 (B-17 42-30207 - 388th BG/561th BS) and 3546 (B-17 42-31191 - 447th BG/710 BS). These B-17s were lost during missions in France in March 1944.

Are there direct links to access the whole content of these MACRs ? As for me I didn't find any... but I'm not an expert !

In the absence of links, would somebody have these MACRs and could they send them to me using a private message on TOCH, or using my e-mail address: domi.pierre.babin@wanadoo.fr

Thanks in advance


Pierre Babin
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Old 3rd February 2020, 13:34
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Re: researching three MACRs

Try this link:

https://catalog.archives.gov/search?...estorNaIds=421
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Old 4th February 2020, 00:05
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Re: researching three MACRs

Could not find them on the link provided
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Old 4th February 2020, 00:26
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Re: researching three MACRs

Hello Pierre,
Here are the details from "Losses of the 8th & 9th Air Force" vol 2
MACR 3479 page 345.

B-17G-15-BO
42-31363
306BG/368BS

T/O Thurleigh, assigned target St. Jean d' Angely airfield, France. Shot down by flak about three miles west of Hourtin, 37 miles northwest of Bordeaux, France. At 1500 hrs, Lt. Fix ditched the a/c in the Bay of Biscay after the Now 3 and 4 engines had been lost on the bomb run. All crew were picked up by a German seaplane after several hours in the water, and sent to an Air Force Hospital in Bordeaux.
10 pow.
Names-
P. 1Lt. Rene C. Fix
CP. 2Lt. Weldon B. Grants.
N. 2Lt. Peter G. Kenny Jr.
B. 2Lt. Charles F. Hill.
E. Sgt. Eugene C. Engberg.
RO. S/Sgt. David L. Stoddard.
BTG. Sgt. Rudolph W. Phillips.
LWG. Sgt. Alvin E. Naumann.
RWG. Sgt. Frank A. Pfeiffer.
TG. Sgt. Wade S. McRary.
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Old 4th February 2020, 00:47
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Re: researching three MACRs

Hello Pierre,
Here are the details from "Losses of the 8th & 9th Air Force" vol 2
MACR 3540 page 346.

B-17F-90-BO
42-30207
388BG/561BS

T/O Knettishall, assigned target Bordeaux/ Merignac airfield, France. Just before target, a flare was seen and immediately the radio room caught fire. The B17 circled and then went into a steep dive and crashed at LA Gombretiere, at Aizenay, nine miles north west of LA Roche-sur-Yon, 37 miles south of Nantes, France. 4 kia, 4 Pow, 2 DVD.

Pow
P. 2Lt. Julius Lederman
CP. 2Lt. Waite D. Law
B. 2Lt. John N. Luzell.
TG. Sgt. George W. Hewett.

Kia
RO. Sgt. Blair H. Harman
BTG. T/Sgt. Louis Mizera.
LWG. S/Sgt. George M.Schwarzkopf.
RWG. S/Sgt. Joseph J. Kapec.

EVD
N. 2Lt. John J. Carroll
E. Sgt. Herman F. Hermanson.

Alex
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Old 4th February 2020, 01:02
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Re: researching three MACRs

Hello Pierre,
Here are the details from "Losses of the 8th & 9th Air Force" vol 2
MACR 3546 page 346

B-17G-5-BO
42-31191
447BG/701BS

T/O Rattlesden, assigned target Bordeaux/Merignac airfield, France. This B17 left the formation just before the IP, losing altitude, presumably due to engine failure as no flak or fighters were seen. All crew baled out and the B17 crashed at Me Gnac near Lacanau, 25 miles west-north-west of Bordeaux at 1400 hrs.

8 Pow
P. 2Lt. Richard Gaskell
CP. 2Lt. Raymond C. Koorenny.
N. 2Lt. Raymond L. Walsh.
B. 2Lt. Modesto A. Gonzales.
E. Sgt. Glen C.Underwood.
RO. S/Sgt. Joseph H. Koenig.
LWG. S/Sgt. Edwin S. Pankhurst.
WG. Sgt. Albert H. Ross.

2 EVD.
BTG. Sgt. Wilbur E. Vols
TG. Sgt. Thomas A. Smith.

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Old 4th February 2020, 13:40
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Re: researching three MACRs

Hello Pierre,

the German casualty numbers/Abschussnummern were
42-31363 KU 1349
42-30207 KU 1295
42-31191 KU 1304.

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Old 4th February 2020, 14:56
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Re: researching three MACRs

KU-1349 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/139539953
KU-1295 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/139538774
KU-1304 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/139538970
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Old 5th February 2020, 10:51
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Re: researching three MACRs

Hello Pierre,

All three MACR are missing from the fold3 website.
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