|
|
|||||||
| Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union. |
 |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
15th February 2020, 21:19
|
||||
|
||||
|
Il-2 losses on 16.12.42, 4 Panczel Imre claims
Can you add info of these claims with russian losses?
Panczel Imre, hungarian pilot 16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS 4 16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS 5 16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS 6 16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS 7 Podgarnoje / Kamenka sector http://www.cieldegloire.com/008_panzel.php regards
__________________
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger [Wingman], you have lost your battle." Dietrich Hrabak "The wingman is absolutely indispensable. I look after the wingman. The wingman looks after me....." Francis S. "Gabby" Gabreski,"The first rule of all air combat is to see the opponent first." Adolf Galland 
|
|
#2
16th February 2020, 02:40
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Il-2 losses on 16.12.42, 4 Panczel Imre claims
B. Stenge Csaba, Hungarian AF researcher gives a different victory list for Pánczél Imre:
1-August 6, 1942 (Sov. fighter) Uriv? 2-October 30, 1942 (IL-2) Ostrogozsk-N 3-October 31, 1942 (IL-2) Alekseevka-E 4-October 31, 1942 (IL-2) Alekseevka-E 5-December 16, 1942 (IL-2) Pavlovsk-S 6-December 16, 1942 (IL-2) Pavlovsk-S On December 16, 1942 the Soviets launched the "Little Saturn" offensive on the front of the 8th Italian Army. In the area the Hungarian fighters downed 4 IL-2s indeed, but only 2 were downed by Pánczél, not 4. The other 2 went down to his wingman, Bánlaky György fhdgy. (1Lt.) The IL-2s probably belonged to 17 VA, 3 SAK. Gabor
|
|
#3
16th February 2020, 14:42
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Il-2 losses on 16.12.42, 4 Panczel Imre claims
hi,
many thanks for your info, always help a lot, kind regards
__________________
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger [Wingman], you have lost your battle." Dietrich Hrabak "The wingman is absolutely indispensable. I look after the wingman. The wingman looks after me....." Francis S. "Gabby" Gabreski,"The first rule of all air combat is to see the opponent first." Adolf Galland
|
|
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Klaus Scheer and Helmut Dahms of NJG 100 | markr | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 10 | 20th February 2021 14:06 |
| Siegfried LEMKE | focusfocus | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 1 | 14th October 2018 14:33 |
| B-17 loss to night fighter | BartC17 | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 3 | 14th January 2011 13:23 |
| German claims and Allied losses May 1940 | Laurent Rizzotti | Allied and Soviet Air Forces | 2 | 19th May 2010 11:13 |
| Soviet air force losses 1941-1945 | Six Nifty .50s | Allied and Soviet Air Forces | 12 | 15th May 2005 17:57 |
Linear Mode
