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Old 26th May 2013, 01:56
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

Forensic pathologists have positively identified Hitler's jaw in the Moscow archives some years ago, so perhaps all the stupid talk about his alleged escape can cease. The sort of nonsense rumors spread by Stalin after the war.
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Old 26th May 2013, 02:20
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

Conspiracy theory and "What If" scenarios - these have so muddied the waters with myths that the the younger generation trying to study World War II end up confused and mislead. The practitioners of this nonsense do a disservice to history.

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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

How positively though?
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

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Forensic pathologists have positively identified Hitler's jaw in the Moscow archives some years ago, so perhaps all the stupid talk about his alleged escape can cease. The sort of nonsense rumors spread by Stalin after the war.
Is this published anywhere? I also hear that Soviets captured Hitler but also that was never official confirmed, with no evidence. Thank you for info
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

Larry and VVince are correct. The jaw was identified some years back and some Russian published a small book about it. there was even a TV special, I think the history channel, on the subject. All this AFTER the fall of the USSR and "Eastern" Europe.

Stalin loved to occassionaly trot out the myth that Hitler survived and was allowed by the Allies to go to an assortment of S American countries. He found it useful to do this as it was the start and middle of the Cold War and he, and subsequent Russian leaders hated that the West was letting the "Nazis" in West Germany rearm and run their own affairs.
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

Thank you John
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Old 27th May 2013, 14:02
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

Is anymore known about Martin Dekker from Flupke's post. The JG1/11 history has 20-Aug-44 Uffz Martin Dekker of 3/JG11 claiming a Mustang and 23-Dec-44 Uffz Martin Dekker I/JG11 badly wounded in combat.
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

According to documents released by the former KGB in 2009, the Russians did find Hitler's body and destroyed the remains as late as 1970.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/eu...ins/index.html

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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

Gents, just to top this thread off (for now at least), I too have read the Grey Wolf book by Williams & Dunstan. No reason to go into a lengthy review as I concur completely with the views expressed by many in the Axis History Forom, where the book was thoroughly debated a couple of years ago.
Thread here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...e+now#p1637569
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Re: Who flew von Greim and Reitsch out of Berlin?

There is no reason to believe Hitler died in the bunker.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...skull-fragment

The Russians claim to have Hitler's jaw but have only allowed photographs to be seen. There is no reason to believe the Russians ever had Hitler's remains. It appears his double may have been found. In the book, Speaking Frankly (1947), by Secretary of State James F. Byrnes, he recounts a meeting with Stalin and Hitler's death is brought up. Stalin tells him he is not dead but either in Spain or Argentina. Post-war FBI reports state that certain persons had seen Hitler and Eva Braun in all-German communities. I do not think the Secretary of State or the FBI were in error, or the qualified person who viewed the alleged Hitler skull fragment.


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