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Old 8th August 2018, 16:17
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Re: №100 victory of Lt. Emil Lang - question

Yes, I have all the losses, all with details. Also, I have several damaged a/c, with details on some of them.

P.S. Soviet pilots claimed 31 a/c, with actual losses > 0 (probably 1, hungarian Ju88 could be shot not by Flak, but by patrolling fighters, wich claimed 4 Ju88 shot down on that day).
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12./JG 54
Herbert Aloe 1
Helmut Grollmus 1
Karl-Heinz Luchau 1
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This is 100% Luchau's victim.
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Hi,

many thanks for your info,

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with the info of Evgeny Velichko 33 vs 9, you have more info of the 9 losses to link with claims?
Claims of 5, 6 and 12./JG54 over Kiev on 3.11.43:

15 Il-2. Soviet records: 2 lost to Fw190 (crew dead), 2 damaged by Fw190/bellylanded (1 a/gunner killed)

5 La-5. Soviet records: 3 La-5 lost to Fw190, 3 damaged/bellylanded (2 pilots wounded).

15 Yak-7/9. Soviet records: 2 Yak-7 damaged/bellylanded.
Note: 1 "Yak-7" claim turned actually into La-5 real loss.
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Hi Evgeny

What is your impression of the Kittel claims?, with Rudorffer I can see the connection with Kurt Tangermann, but have not been able to establish a long-term rottenflieger for Kittel.....and you can't cheat alone. Also no extraordinarily huge days for Kittel.

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Hallo Johannes.
Most of Kittel claims, that I was able to check, are confirmed by Soviet losses. Including his latewar multiple claims.
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Re: №100 victory of Lt. Emil Lang - question

Thanks for that.

Though Kittel did have many multiple days especially in 1944, they were by no means outrageously big, so actually I was thinking he was a honest guy. III./JG 54 seems honest enough, but not so sure about this units other Gruppen especially I./JG 54, likewise with JG 52 I think the 7./JG 52 and 9./JG 52 Staffel suspicious I./JG 52 seem good especially. What is your opinion on Günther Rall, he seems honest enough to me as does Friedrich Obleser.

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