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Old 5th June 2018, 14:55
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Re: Who dropped €3730 on this fake Me 262 eBay auction?

hi,
when everything was done in photoshop, then we might have to compare the me262b-photo with the "fake"-photo. maybe -if it is a fake - the guy who created it, took the thunderbolt from the me262b and put it into the new photo?!?
but nearly all me262-photos have already published. so, this one must be a new one, which he didn't sell but used it for creating his fake... very strange, isn't it?...
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Old 5th June 2018, 15:20
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Re: Who dropped €3730 on this fake Me 262 eBay auction?

That dent in the front of the cowling looks pretty conclusive to me. What are the odds that the machine at Innsbruck and and this "new" Me 262 would have indentical damage?
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Old 5th June 2018, 15:46
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That dent in the front of the cowling looks pretty conclusive to me. What are the odds that the machine at Innsbruck and and this "new" Me 262 would have indentical damage?

Good catch. Also notice the vegetation ahead the engine nacele, it´s the same...
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Old 5th June 2018, 16:00
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What dent? I only see a dent on the Innsbruck photo. Just in case that you are comparing the 3rd photo in post #4 with the eBay photo: that photo was created by Aviart to demonstrate that the Insbruck photo and the eBay photo are similar and that he could create that photo with Photoshop himself. It is not the photo sold at eBay. The photo at eBay does not have any dent in the cowling.

To me the vegetation looks completely different. On one photo there is tall grass, on the other mainly soil.
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… you are comparing the 3rd photo in post #4 with the eBay photo: that photo was created by Aviart to demonstrate that the Insbruck photo
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Old 5th June 2018, 18:40
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Re: Who dropped €3730 on this fake Me 262 eBay auction?

Interesting that this one also sports a white spot/flash on the lower point of the rudder.
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Old 5th June 2018, 18:50
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....but this many Euros for one photo??????
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Old 5th June 2018, 19:29
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Re: Who dropped €3730 on this fake Me 262 eBay auction?

I know of people who don't have as much information, or experience, as is available here. There are - and I've never been there - people with a lot of money who fail to research what they are buying.


Take the word provenance and reputation. If a well-known auction house is selling something expensive, potential buyers would like to know the 'chain of custody' of the item or collection of items. I know an estate buyer who purchases anything of value from homes that the heirs do not know how to sell themselves. They agree on a percentage of the sale. So much to him and so much to the heirs. Since he has a good reputation and can show a written inventory of where the items came from, he can show provenance. Sadly, I've heard the following from some dealers: "It's worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for it."

Even if, someday, I had the money to purchase something valued at $500.00 or more, I'd do the research.

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I couldn’t agree more with your line of thinking, edwest2. Provenance is paramount in all cases.

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Old 6th June 2018, 08:05
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Re: Who dropped €3730 on this fake Me 262 eBay auction?

Bonjour,
I just would like to say that I agree with Roger Gaemperle : after a careful examination of the three low resolution scans of the three photos of 262 sold at the same time by this seller, to my mind these three photos are true unknown photos of 262.
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