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Losses IV./KG76
Hello
I'm looking for losses of IV./KG76 from Febrary to August 1944. Thank you, Rene |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
Hi Rene,
Jan Horn in his verluste appendix for IV./KG 76 in KG 76: Die Chronik ..., (2019), pp. 387-391 has thirty-two entries between the start of February and end of August 1944, but identifies fully only fifteen: 18.02 Ju 88 A-4 88 3548 F1+MW 03.03 Ju 88 A-4 140 136 F1+EW 23.03 Ju 88 A-7 88 6166 F1+AV 23.03 Ju 88 A-14 144 227 F1+CW 24.03 Ju 88 A-4 88 3522 F1+OW 12.04 Ju 88 A-4 0720 F1+AW 23.04 Ju 88 A-4 88 4609 F1+CW 27.04 Ju 52 640 205 DU+ZO 29.04 Ju 88 A-7 88 4222 F1+QV 03.05 Ju 88 A-4 88 4609 F1+CW O5.05 Ju 88 A-4 140 069 F1+AU 12.05 Ju 88 A-6 088 2442 F1+IV 25.05 Ju 88 A-4 6767 F1+HV 23.06 Ju 88 A-4 140 382 F1+AU 29.07 Ju 88 A-4 0726 ? best regards, Jim |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
Presumably a typo, or the first mentioned was not an actual loss:
23.04 Ju 88 A-4 88 4609 F1+CW 03.05 Ju 88 A-4 88 4609 F1+CW Regards, Andy |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
Hi Andy,
Indeed, I should have put a "[sic]" beside both. Horn ascribes "100 %" to the first and "besch" to the other, Jim |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
Hello
Many thanks! The reason is, the crash site of a Ju88 bomber was located about 6 km southwest of Finow Air Base. Date etc. is unknown. There must have been deaths. Rene |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
My one penny. Tried "inspect availablle data on this a/c" as it seems be victim of not precise or not undisputable info.
- 23.04.1944, Yes. BF killed. - 03.05.1944, Pilot Ofw. P. Stammen injured. - First (23.04.44) I think damage in "Uberslag" (and BF killed) be too much for it be flying again just 13 days later (so it can be maybe wrong W.Nr. given for F1+CW on that date, besides F1+CW was 144227 on 23.03.1944.) But 088/4609 was already with IV/KG 76 in October 1943 (one 20% or 20% Er on 14.10. and 19.10.43 I think be same) and it has "paper transfer out" 01.44 (but was not really "out" as likely only to Junkers Blagnac for inspection or overhaul) but 884609 had final crash (100%) in August 1944. ... and 0880144609 (other 4609 has 100% in July 1943 at II./KG 51) -Ed Last edited by edNorth; 30th November 2020 at 01:49. Reason: reversed dates |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
Hello Ed,
I couldn't find the loss for the 144609 in 1943...., where hv you found it ? Rémi |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
Thank you, Ed. Your knowledge of Junkers aircraft is invaluable.
Rene, In that time frame, Horn records seven Ju 88s with fatalities. I include the "ort" as given by Horn. You will have to decide for yourself if any fit your parameters. 23.03 Ju 88 A-7 88 6166 2 km. SO Eberswalde 4 killed 23.03 Ju 88 A-14 144 227 12 km. N Minken/OS 4 killed 23.04 Ju 88 A-4 88 4609 Fl.Pl. Finow/Mark 1 killed - see Ed's comments above! 29.04 Ju 88 A-7 88 4222 15 km. NW Bernau/Mark 4 killed 05.05 Ju 88 A-4 140 069 Bei Rugenwalde bei Eberswalde 4 killed 12.05 Ju 88 A-6 088 2442 Nordufer Plonsee, 1,5 km. O Luptow 4 killed 23.06 Ju 88 A-4 140 382 Marienwerder/Mark 4 killed Jim |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
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Reference: "Flugzeugunfälle & Verluste bei dem Verbänden" (Genst.Gen.Qu.6.Abt.) 26.07.1943, Page 6, Lfd. 58 : first entry: 4609 9K+HM lost 22.07.1943 (Archangelskoje) (BAMA RL 2 III / 1191) Last edited by edNorth; 30th November 2020 at 01:50. Reason: typo |
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Re: Losses IV./KG76
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23.03 Ju 88 A-7 0886166 2 km. SO Eberswalde 4 killed 23.03 Ju 88 A-14 0880144227 12 km. N Minken/OS 4 killed 23.04 Ju 88 A-4 0884609 Fl.Pl. Finow/Mark 1 killed 29.04 Ju 88 A-7 0884222 15 km. NW Bernau/Mark 4 killed 05.05 Ju 88 A-4 0880140069 Bei Rugenwalde bei Eberswalde 4 killed 12.05 Ju 88 A-6 0882442 Nordufer Plonsee, 1,5 km. O Luptow 4 killed 23.06 Ju 88 A-4 0880140382 Marienwerder/Mark 4 killed -Ed. |
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