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Old 25th March 2015, 03:54
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

Chris, where is the website with the Me 262?
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Old 25th March 2015, 05:16
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

Dear Dan,

The website given at the start is correct. Look under photo gallery. I then checked what the webmaster had to say about his sources and he gave a list of books and said he scanned the photos from them.

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Old 25th March 2015, 12:19
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

Hello Dan,

This is the Me 262 photo said to have been taken at Luneberg Heath!
I let you judge ...
http://www.pegasusarchive.org/varsit...Pic_Jones7.htm

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Old 25th March 2015, 16:48
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

The flag between the Me 262s is a dead giveaway. It's Fassberg.
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Old 25th March 2015, 17:10
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

I was going to say the Fw.190 #10 looked familiar; and was the focal point of many RCAF types. And the Me.-262s are most likely the Fassberg Five. Interesting to see the JG-7 badge on the Me.262.
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Old 25th March 2015, 18:02
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

Exactly!
I suppose those veterans did remember the surrender at Luneburger Heide when the planes where at Fassberg 34,7km southern ... Not a clue for that Bf109 then... Pity!
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Old 26th March 2015, 00:43
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

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Also, the shape of the structure extends also above the wing, whereas the mock-up of the MK 108 nacelle is protuding only below the wing.
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Ferdinando,
I don't know enough about Bf109K-6's to agree or disagree with you on your overall conclusion....except that the wing-only photo is probably placed on the test-rig upside down - so the wheel well is on the top. So the cannon or camera or whatever mounting, does protrude below the wing on an installed aircraft.

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Old 26th March 2015, 12:23
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

I'd also add that it is most unlikely to be an internal mounting for a rocket. Think for a moment about the rocket's exhaust.

As we know that Messerschmitt was intending an internal wing mounting for the cannon, then it will have been tried on an experimental aircraft before going into production, and the installation here appears to very close indeed to the other test example. Minor differences are only to be expected at this development stage.
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Old 26th March 2015, 13:23
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

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I'd also add that it is most unlikely to be an internal mounting for a rocket. Think for a moment about the rocket's exhaust.

As we know that Messerschmitt was intending an internal wing mounting for the cannon, then it will have been tried on an experimental aircraft before going into production, and the installation here appears to very close indeed to the other test example. Minor differences are only to be expected at this development stage.
Hello Graham,

Maybe you've read that comment "elsewhere" ... Doesn't matter anyway.
Effectively. But not only the exhaust .. The whole wing structure too should have been affected (Main spare first)

I'm not preoccupated by the differences between what is said to be the K-6 wing mock-up and that machine's photo since "minor différences are only to be expected at this development stage". This does make sense.
Note the wings have large G-10/K-4 wheel fairing on top as pointed by Goran times ago.

Last, it's just a suggestion not a "documented proof", indeed.
But with these MG108 pictures (two in fact) mock-up I think this is the best I can think about ... Until further notice/news.

Concerning cameras I see no reason to have developped such things when BSK16 was already available .. And for which purpose? Luftwaffe has always been looking for much more efficient guns to fight against the bombers .. And even against Spitfire since the beginning.

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Old 26th March 2015, 17:29
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Re: Nice photo find - German planes captured by British Paratroopers

Some will remember we had an eBay photo discussed in October 2010 at LEMB here. The earlier eBay photo was also posted in post #2 in this thread by Franck.
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