German fighter pilot training

[Black6]

Please can anybody tell me how long a new pilot would typically spend with these units as his training progressed:

Jagdfliegervorschule
Jagdfliegerschule
Ergänzungsjagdgruppe


I am particularly interested in the 1941-42 period and suspect that things may have changed later in the war.

thanks for your help.

[Broncazonk]

Willy Reschke gives hints to all of that in his book. He mentions little bits and pieces that you might find valuable.

Bronc

[Black6]

Thanks Bronc
If that's a book on JG 301/302 "Wilde Sau" then I have it on my shelves.

Any further thoughts appreciated !

[Steve Coates]

There is some coverage in a number of ADI(K) Interrogation Reports which are worth hunting out.

[Merlin]

The Carlsen/Meyer book "Die Flugzeugfüherausbildung der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1935 - 1945" has the following details for the time period 1942/43:
Jagdfliegervorschule: 25 flying hours in appr. two month (Ar 96 and similar types)
Jagdfliegerschule: 35 flying hours in appr. two month (older Bf 109 types) plus 15 hours with latest versions Bf 109F/G or Fw 190A.
Ergänzungsjagdgruppe: two to four weeks with latest versions Bf 109F/G or Fw 190A.

Due to weather conditions, fuel availability or other reasons the overall time could be much longer in some cases.

[Tony Kambic]

I did a book review for the USAF Historic Foundation of the book below and early pilot training is discussed in it.

The author is supposed to be coming out with two more editions, Vol. 2 1934-1937 (expected release Sep, 2017) and Vol. 3 1937-1945. (release not known).

Phoenix: A Complete History of the Luftwaffe 1918- 1945: Volume 1 The Phoenix is Reborn 1918-1934. By Richard Meredith. Solihull UK: Helion & Company, 2016.
Maps. Tables. Photographs. Notes. Appendices. Glossary. Bibliography. Index. Pp. xlix, 582.
$55.00 ISBN 978-1- 910294-50-5

Tony

[hucks216]

This is a unit page from a fighter pilot's Soldbuch which might be of help in plotting a timeline.

[Flitzer]

One needs to delve further into their their training other that number of hours. The variety of aircraft in their individual programs, instructors, and tactics. Minor details in training had an effect on proficiency.. The Luftwaffe, unlike the USAAF never used checklists.

[edwest2]

Here is some information:

https://ww2-weapons.com/pilot-traini...the-luftwaffe/


I have seen a photo of various small models of Allied aircraft suspended vertically on the end of a heavy wire. The pilots would be outdoors and seated in a circle around the instructor who was next to this display. He apparently used his hands to indicate the best attack approach.



Ed

[Juha]

IIRC in Johannes Kaufmann’s memoirs "Flugberichte" there is much on his training throughout his interesting career, mostly in Zerstörer units.

Juha