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Old 16th June 2020, 12:22
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ASR He 59s

We all know the colours at the outbreak of war and then from 1940 onwards but what colour were they generally painted July-September 1939?
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Old 16th June 2020, 12:32
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Re: ASR He 59s

Hello Chris,


I have a copy of the admittedly dated German Aircraft Markings 1939-45 by K.A. Merrick. On P.27 there is a photo of a He 59. The accompanying text on P.26 states overall colour was RLM 02.


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Old 16th June 2020, 12:52
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Re: ASR He 59s

Hello Again,


Further to my last post, might not the photo with the Dornier Wal at:


http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.co...php?13850.post


show a machine for the time period which interests you?


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Old 17th June 2020, 14:13
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Re: ASR He 59s

Clint. Overall RLM 02 it was, with these designators until the directive of 4 July 1939 revising the fuselage codes. This is 3.(multi-pupose) / Staffel.
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Old 17th June 2020, 15:44
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Re: ASR He 59s

Hi Nick,


This was for Chris, rather than myself. I only posted as I'd unintentionally dispaced his post from the top of the board (and its not as though I don't post enough anyway!). I was hoping someone more knowledgable would respond and now you have. So thanks for that.


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Old 18th June 2020, 08:49
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Re: ASR He 59s

Thanks guys but the photos are not grey. I will try to scan & post
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Old 19th June 2020, 15:23
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Here you are-best I can do

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Old 19th June 2020, 15:31
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Re: ASR He 59s

Hello Chris,


This is outside my comfort zone, so feel free to ignore, but looking at this :


https://war-book.ru/heinkel-he-59-bo...ik-germaniya2/ WL-AHAN I don't see RLM 02 as implausible.Why are you so certain that that is not what we're seeing on the photo of WL-APIE?


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Re: ASR He 59s

Chris. I agree with Clint, looks like a single colour which should have been 02 grey-green; they were re-painted white after fired on by their own Flak when the war started.

WL-APIE was one of the first 6 converted by Walter Bachmann ( a Heinkel sub-contractor) for ASR minus guns, first flight June 30 1939, then based at Norderney; the first ASR unit ( Seenotflugkdo. 1) was formed by Karl Born and officially the Heinkels were civilian not military ---hence the "WL" registration for ex-civilian aircraft. In 1939 these letters replaced the civilian "D" plus letters eg. D-OMYI which succeeded "D" plus numbers eg. D-921, though the former continued on many 2nd-line aircraft - including He.59s in 1940.

This is a handy site for German registrations, this page for "WL". Note WL-APIE is shown as a 59N but I'm sure it's a C-2 / ASR.
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http://www.airhistory.org.uk/gy/reg_WL-.html
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