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Hi Norbert - Post 7
Only a small point but might be relevant - The Bf110C-4 - W/Nr.3235 could not have had the Stkz VB+TN as this was a Fw58 - W/Nr.3326 with Focke-Wulf from 1941 to 08.43. The W/Nr block Bf110C-2 VB+TT to VB+TX - 3241 to 3245 only |
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Gentlemen, thank you all for excellent and informative contributions. I am pressed for time, so two brief comments follow below:
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Brian, there appears to be a Russian website dedicated to LN+ER, with images of the crashed aircraft - "Located 12 kilometres north of the town of Zaozersk in Murmansk oblast. Lifted out by helicopter in 1991 and appeared in England in 1992. Now possibly located in the Berlin Technik Museum." https://ln-er.ru/ This is contradicted by the information below: "BF110F-2 Werknummer 5052 served as LN+NR with 13./Zerstörergruppe JG 5 in Finland during 1943. On January 11, it was damaged by Flak flying a mission against railway lines between Murmansk and Leningrad. Pilot Helmut Ziegenhagen successfully executed a forced landing on a frozen lake, with all crew picked up by friendly forces the next day. The comparably well-preserved wreck was salvaged in 1991 and shipped to the UK. In 1997, it was acquired by Deutsches Technikmuseum together with another wreck marked M8+ZE, which provided parts to the restoration." http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages...eum/26126.html Larry, you and Doug wrote in your book series that "Staffel disbanded (early February 1943)." So we can assume that there is no mention of this unit after the surrender at Stalingrad? Warm regards, Dan
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Post#11: Thanks for the correction Tom.
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Andy, Dan, et al,
Here are the last few entries from my research on 7.(F/H)/LG 2: 2 Aug 42: Bf 110D-4 (L2+HR) shot down by a fighter near Golubinskiy/50 km WNW Stalingrad, Oblt. Walter Köhler and two others killed. Sep 42: based at Golubinskiy, and reported 6(2) Bf 110s on strength in a return for 20 Sep. 6 Nov 42: Bf 110E shot down by AA fire just west of Rossosh on the Don River, wounding Staka Oblt. Robert Kneifel and crew. 26 Dec 42: reported to be operating at least one Fw 189 on this date in the area south of Stalingrad. 3 Feb 43: at least 58 officers and men were reported lost in the fighting in and around Stalingrad, and 7.(H)/LG 2 was officially disbanded shortly thereafter. The survivors were subsequently reported in the Crimea, possibly for reassignment to units under NAGr. 9. That's all I have. It almost seems as if it was in the process of being converted to Fw 189s in December 1942? In that case it would have turned over its remaining Bf 110s to other units or used them until none were left due to attrition from combat and crashes. L. |
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Larry, Tom, Norbert, Mikael, Dan and Brian.
A great many thanks for your input. It looks like the conclusion is that the entry is a "typo" and should have referred to L2+ER being a survivor from 7.(F/H)/LG 2. Yesterday I also received an e-mail from the person that passed me the FB page suggesting a similar thing. Thank you all once more.
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