A mysterious Bordbuch and unknown St.Kz. and Wnr.

[cbe2009]

Hello,

I have a Bordbuch belonging an ingenieur Finke, who first flew with FFS A/B 3 and later with "Der Reichsmin. der Luftfahrt und Oberbef.haber der Luftwaffe".
It has the stamps showing this.
However some of the entries are a mystery to me. Five are shown here:

Fw 200 HH+EC 557024
Fw 200 HH+SD(O) 40599
Fw 200 CS+SP 10005
Fw 200 SP+HH 17506
Ju 52 KS+HO 7275

I cannot find these codes and Wnr.s anywhere in my Fw 200 or Ju 52 material and neither in Luftarchiv.de

Does anyone know anything about these A/C?
I don't think his son added some fantasy codes, but something doesn't add up.

Thank you for your time,

Christian

[Bookman]

Hello Christian, hope you are well. I've an idea about the numbers, a hint from what I've seen/heard in 40 years of meeting with LW veterans of all branches. Sometimes an engineer would visit a unit as a 'prufer' of various devices and components. Those devices examined may have these numbers, indicating perhaps the device was examined and perhaps calibrated, repaired or replaced. The 'waffeninspektor' Erwin Mann of JG. 27 related 'diaries' (laugh) of various weapons installed in their aircraft, noted by the manufacturers identification number. Noteworthy cases were referred to both the RLM and the manufacturer.
As far as the training schools, the last III/Gruppe T.O. Willy Jackel was originally an 'oberwerkmeister' and as such was trained to fly light aircraft. His documents listed the Storch, as well as Gotha, Heinkel, aircraft.
No room anymore for models, each one (many) built was given as a gift to the man who flew it and in one case that man and his 'erste wart'. Plenty joy from such a small gesture. BUT, two metric tonnes (literally) of books and growing.
Be well, will

[JoMe]

Hi Christian

The old German font Sütterlin is often difficult to read.
Are you sure that you have read the entries correctly?
The Ju 52/7275 wore the SKZ TG + EO, indicating a reading error.
Maybe you can set a copy.

best wishes
JoMe

[Rasmussen]

All of the Stkz. in "Erprobungsstaffel des OKL und Obd.L. des RLM" (existing unit?) in flightlog Funke are a mystery - like AA+EH for a Bü 181. And ... it's indeed KS+HO - not an reading error.

Are you sure that's TG+EO an Stkz. and not an Überführungskennzeichen of ATG, JoMe?

best wishes
Rasmussen

[cbe2009]

Hello,

Thank you all for helping me out here. I did not know this Bordbuch was known already.
I have attached the page with the Ju 52, but I can attach more if needed.

Still building models :-)

Kind regards,

Christian

[Rottler]

Hello,

in the website "adl-luftfahrthistorik.de" under "Frühere Artikel" you find the article of Karl Kössler "Überführungskennzeichen 1937 - 1939".
According to this article TG+EO was an ATG-Überführungskennzeichen.

Regards
Leo

[cbe2009]

Wow!!

Thank you very much Leo!

It is exiting to learn something new so often from you guys in here.

Kind regards,

Christian

[Gerhard]

Hello,
I have reasons to assume that TG+Ex may have seen double use.

Christian, can you please also show the right hand side of the Flugbuch, showing the dates?

Gerhard

[cbe2009]

Yes of course, hope this helps!

Kind regards,

Christian

[Tom Willis]

To get back to the Flugbuch - the only correct (in both Stkz & W/Nr) is the entry for the Bu131 BD+MV W/Nr6034 - the rest don't even come close in both Stkz - Unit codes and the so-called W/Nr are 'just wrong'. The only possible is a Bf110 KS+PS ) - I have a KS+PI for a Bf110G from a photo). Also BD+EH is correct for a Bu 131 and not the Bu181 marked in the Flugbuch - the W/Nr 2675 does not fit either a Bu131 or Bu181.
I am not saying that the Flugbuch is a fake but 99% of the codes and the attached W/Nrs do not add up to what is known.
Can anybody else add anything further as to the contents being 'historically' correct.
Cheers & Regards