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Old 19th September 2017, 09:42
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A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

Hi, I am trying to find out information about this emblem. It is the Bulgarian Bravery order. What is it, a unit emblem? Or what? why was it used on what seems to be trainer aircraft? Thank you!
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Old 19th September 2017, 17:14
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

The Bulgarian Bravery Order military decoration is probably only similar to it.

For your ready reference in the same batch of photos on eBay you can find what I believe was a destroyed Polish fighter aircraft from September 1939 sporting this emblem. I can post it later here, if you wish.

The emblem was associated with II.(schlacht)/Lehrgeschwader 2, and probably sported on the Stab's Hs 123 ground attack aircraft.

The light aircraft was not a trainer aircraft, at least did not have that function here - it was more likely used as a light aircraft at Stab II.(s)/LG 2 disposal.

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Old 19th September 2017, 17:35
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

Thank you, I have not seen the auction, a friend sent just these photos.
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Old 19th September 2017, 17:45
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

Well, after some search, I found the seller and the photos. The destroyed aircraft in Poland has the Bulgarian airforce emblem of that time (circle with the Bravery cross inside). That aircraft was either to be delivered to Bulgaria, or returned for repairs. But it has the Bulgarian emblem on it. The German aircraft from the first post still remains a mistery to me?
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Old 19th September 2017, 18:36
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

This is a Focke-Wulf Fw 44 - could be the personal aircraft of the Kommander or used as a general hack by the Stab
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Old 19th September 2017, 21:57
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

According to what I found on the net, the Bulgarian Air Force did order 14 Nos. PZL P.24Bs in 1937–1938. It later placed a repeat order for another 20 Nos. PZL P.24C, to be delivered by the end of 1938. It then ordered 26 Nos. more PZL P.24Fs, 22 of which were delivered from Poland in July 1939, just before the outbreak of World War II.

The remaining four, lacking propellers, were bombed in the Okęcie airport and aircraft factory in September 1939 by the Germans. Total: 56 PZL P.24B/C/F

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Old 19th September 2017, 22:00
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

Not to jump to any rush conclusion here, but this might be how the apparently Stab II.(s)/LG 2 emblem originated - as the spoils of the Polenfeldzug.
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Old 19th September 2017, 22:57
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

And the PZL P24.F in question...
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Re: A personal or unit emblem on aircraft?

As shown in the PZL P24F photo, this was the Bulgarian Air Force roundel from 1937 until 1941. It is also the symbol; of the Bulgarian Medal of Bravery. I believe the photos that you show are FW44s flown by Bulgarians, hence the symbol. Much like allied nations put their air force's roundel on British Spits and Hurris.

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Old 20th September 2017, 11:36
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Fw 44 flown by Bulgarians... That I doubt. All these photos are taken from a II.(s)/LG 2 album showing the campaigns in Poland and France, and sold individually. The Fw 44, as far as I can see it, is with the Luftwaffe markings, there is just nothing to suggest the presence of the Bulgarian air force personnel here.

Furthermore, the so-called Tripartite Pact was joined by Bulgaria only on 1 March 1941, so at the time when the aforementioned campaigns took place, it was strictly speaking a neutral country.

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