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Old 13th May 2022, 21:07
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Jägerzuführungsstaffel

Hi,
please does anyone have information about the activities of "Jägerzuführungsstaffel"?
Did the pilots of these units transport aircraft to combat units?
Thank you very much for any information.
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Old 13th May 2022, 23:17
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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

A quick search comes up with units transporting new aircraft to combat units
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Old 15th May 2022, 12:01
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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

Hi Denniss,
Thank you for your answer.
Does anyone have more information about these units?
I know that one Jägerzuführungsstaffel was in Köln-Ostheim.
Thank you, best regards Tony
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Old 18th May 2022, 19:49
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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

1st July 1944 "Jägerzuführungskommando West" was established to control the supply of aircraft and personnel of Luftflotte 3 for the following 4 month. It included Jägerzuführungsstaffel 1 at Wiesbaden-Erbenheim, Staffel 2 at Mannheim-Sandhofen and Staffel 3 at Köln-Ostheim. Manpower was taken from 2./JG 4, 11./JG 11 and Ausbildungskommando 10./JG 11 (RL 2 III / 60).

The only hint to actual action I have is a single Ultra-report with Werknummern for around 30 Bf 109 and Fw 190 from Jägerzuführungskdo West (Ultra HW5/573).
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Old 18th May 2022, 21:56
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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

Also take a look at Budesarchiv RL 2-III/201 page 37 (available online) which has three of these Staffeln being established on 1 July 1944, along with Jägerzuführungskommando West.

I haven't looked at much of this file yet but it might also tell you when these units were disbanded.
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Old 19th May 2022, 00:47
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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

It seems to have been an effort to rebuild Gruppe West/Flugzeugüberführungsgeschwader 1 by replacing its inexperienced rookie pilots, who were losing and damaging too many fighters in landing crashes on rough French satellite airfields from 6 to 30 June 1944, with experienced pilots from the active front fighter units, in particular JG 1, JG 4 and JG 11. The P/W interrogation cited below has some information on it.*

*NARA WashDC, RG 242, T-971 roll 18; AFHRA Maxwell: decimal 512.619 British AirMin P/W interrogations, ADI(K) series, microfilm rolls A5400-05, interrogation ADI(K) 502/44).

20 Sep 44: Gruppe West ordered disbanded this date with 2. and 3. Staffel to be reassigned to Gruppe Süd. (see DEFE 3 ULTRA signal HP5997)


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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

Carl, Nick and Larry
Thank you very much for your interesting information!
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Old 30th June 2022, 15:56
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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

In the Bundesarchiv file RL 7-3/572 (which is available online) a Luftflotte 3 disposition report for 11 July 1944 gives the following:
Jägerzuführungskdo. West (in Aufstellung)
Jägerzuführungsstaffel 1, Wiesbaden-Erbenheim
Jägerzuführungsstaffel 2, Mannheim-Sandhofen
Jägerzuführungsstaffel 3, Köln-Ostheim
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Old 30th June 2022, 19:30
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Re: Jägerzuführungsstaffel

Nick,
Thank you very much for your great information!
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