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Old 15th July 2020, 20:02
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Friedrich Schein + 22.11.1942

Hi Everyone,

I am searching for the loss details of Friedrich Schein who was killed on the 22.11.1942 dying a flyers death. Can anyone help further?

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Re: Friedrich Schein + 22.11.1942

Melvin,

Perhaps you've (also) read that it was a multi-casualty crash, as the card refers to not only Schein's death, but also seven of his comrades. It was on a liaison flight in Greece.
Volksbund website may have other names at the Dionyssos-Rapendoza cemetery with same date, providing a further lead?

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Old 22nd September 2020, 16:49
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Re: Friedrich Schein + 22.11.1942

It appears that Fw. Schein was with KG76. From mid-Nov 1942 this unit was transferring from (I believe) the Caucasus to Athens, Greece and accident most likely connected to this operation.

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Re: Friedrich Schein + 22.11.1942

Hello,

Besatzungen Staffeln unbekannt.

21.11.42 ?./KG 76 Ju 88 A4 (W.Nr ?) 100%

Absturz infolge unfreiwilliger Bodenberuehrung, 21.11.42 Insel Euboea'

Obfw. Wilhelm Schurr
Fw. Josef Hilz
Fw. Friedrich Schein
Uffz Joachim Heyde
Ogfr. Franz Petzl
Gefr. Anton Dieweck
Gefr. Kurt Fiedrich
Flg. Herbert Huster alle (+)
Fw. Knierien (vw)

See:
Die Deutsche Luftwaffe In Griechenland Im II. Weltkrieg 1941-1945.
Tesapsides, Byron
Saloniki:Author,2015(3rd ed.).
pp.248-9

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Re: Friedrich Schein + 22.11.1942

From the NVM:
1942-11-21, 4./KGr.z.b.V. 900, Ju 52/3m, 7556, DG+KF, Chalkis, Insel Euböa
Flugzeugführer Uffz Huber, Max, +
Bordfunker Uffz Lother, Helmuth, +
Bordmechaniker Ofw Jeng, Otto, +
Bordschütze Obgfr Wurl, Erich, +
Fluggast Gefr Diewock, Anton, +
Fluggast Gefr Friedrich, Kurt, +
Fluggast Uffz Heyde, Joachim, +
Fluggast Fw Hilz, Josef, +
Fluggast Flg Huster, Herbert, +
Fluggast Obgfr Petzl, Franz, +
Fluggast Fw Schein, Friedrich, +
Fluggast Ofw Schurr, Wilhelm, +
Unfreiwilliger Bodenberührung infolge schlechter Sicht. Fluggäste von III/KG 76. Bruch 100 %. Fluggäste von III/KG 76.

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Re: Friedrich Schein + 22.11.1942

Hello,

Thanks for the correction Matti.

Just a word about the information I posted (minus umlauts incidentally), on the Luftwaffe personnel lost on 21 November, 1942. The information I posted from Byron's book was posted in good faith, but I was dubious about the number of casualties (9), aboard a Ju 88!

After seeing Matti's information, I re-checked Byron's book. He provides the following information (p.313):

Kgr. z.b.V. 900.

Besatzungen und Verluste.

FF. Uffz. Max Huber, Ju 52 (DG+KF, W.Nr. 7556) 100% m. BM. Ofw. Otto Jank, BF. Uffz. Helmuth Lother, BS. Ogfr. Erich Wurl, alle (+) 21.11.42 Insel Euboea (umlaut following 'o'). That's it!

Byron makes no mention of any connection between the two entries (pp.248-9 & 313), in fact he seems totally unaware there was any connection at all!

The last three times I have used this expensive book to check some facts, most of the information eventually proved to be, incomplete, or incorrect. The picture quality is poor (at times), and the layout deplorable. It will be placed back on the shelves and in future, looked at for what it is, an expensive oddity, no more.

You live, and you learn (hopefully).

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